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Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 #5247483 10/22/19 06:44 PM
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https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/full-synthetic-motor-oils/pennzoil-maximum-power.html

Any ideas when this will hit the shelves? Think this is exactly what the doctor ordered for my 1.3T Renegade....calls for an SN+ 0W30!


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247488 10/22/19 06:49 PM
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LOL any idea what the price is going to be. Outrageous is likely close.


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247522 10/22/19 07:28 PM
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As covered in another thread you started earlier:
Originally Posted by paoester
The cold weather, and the pesky Owner's Manual exact wording about the oil viscosity grade and MS-13340 required, means there is only one choice: Mopar MaxPro+ 0w30 that says MS-13340 right on the front label is the one to use until you can get it all sorted out.

https://www.centerlinealfa.com/sites/centerlinealfa.com/assets/images/Engine_Parts/ss104.jpg

Pennzoil is about to come out with a full-syn 0w-30 (non-dexos1) SN+ GF5 MS-6395 nobody has heard about yet because its so new:
LINK for new Pennzoil 0w30 MS-6395 SN+ GF5 oil
https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/prod...4327789/PZ_MaximumPower_1qt_US_HERO.jpeg

However, the upcoming Pennzoil is not MS-13340, it is MS-6395, so the Mopar stuff is all there is!
OK, I admit that https://www.ravenol.de/en/products/usage/d/Product/show/p/ravenol-fes-sae-0w-30.html ordered from Blauparts.com is an alternative, but I wonder about Ravenol saying "Practiced and Tested in Aggregates"(???) to MS-13340, so does that mean it is really approved to it? I think FCA requires fleet testing to get MS-13340 officially, so does anybody know whether Ravenol really has MS-13340?


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247523 10/22/19 07:30 PM
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Uniquely designed for your drive...

How would they know?


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247529 10/22/19 07:37 PM
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What is next? Convertible oil? Coupe oil? ...

There just isn’t going to be enough shelf space


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247537 10/22/19 07:45 PM
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Almost a 0w20.

Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: paoester] #5247549 10/22/19 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by paoester
As covered in another thread you started earlier:
Originally Posted by paoester
The cold weather, and the pesky Owner's Manual exact wording about the oil viscosity grade and MS-13340 required, means there is only one choice: Mopar MaxPro+ 0w30 that says MS-13340 right on the front label is the one to use until you can get it all sorted out.

https://www.centerlinealfa.com/sites/centerlinealfa.com/assets/images/Engine_Parts/ss104.jpg

Pennzoil is about to come out with a full-syn 0w-30 (non-dexos1) SN+ GF5 MS-6395 nobody has heard about yet because its so new:
LINK for new Pennzoil 0w30 MS-6395 SN+ GF5 oil
https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/prod...4327789/PZ_MaximumPower_1qt_US_HERO.jpeg

However, the upcoming Pennzoil is not MS-13340, it is MS-6395, so the Mopar stuff is all there is!
OK, I admit that https://www.ravenol.de/en/products/usage/d/Product/show/p/ravenol-fes-sae-0w-30.html ordered from Blauparts.com is an alternative, but I wonder about Ravenol saying "Practiced and Tested in Aggregates"(???) to MS-13340, so does that mean it is really approved to it? I think FCA requires fleet testing to get MS-13340 officially, so does anybody know whether Ravenol really has MS-13340?




Sorry I missed that - thanks for the info.

I actually can't confirm that the Mopar stuff is SN+.... does anyone else know? So far I am thinking the best oil for the engine is Mobil 1 AFE 0W30. Right grade and meets SN+, which is probably better than MS 13340.


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: CONMCK] #5247550 10/22/19 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CONMCK
Almost a 0w20.

.3cSt away. I bet the variations in batches will put it even closer...not to mention shearing during use.


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: ammolab] #5247601 10/22/19 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ammolab
What is next? Convertible oil? Coupe oil? ...

There just isn’t going to be enough shelf space


No kidding ...

I was looking for a 5w30 synthetic for a friends car, went to Canadian Tire. Limited choices in this grade ... only 15 to choose from.

M1 vanilla
M1 EP
M1 EP HM
M1 HM
M1 ESP
M1 Truck and SUV

PP
PUP
PP Euro L

Rotella Gas Truck

Castrol Edge
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QS Ultimate Durability
QS UD HM

Motomaster OE Plus


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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247710 10/23/19 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HoosierJeeper
https://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/full-synthetic-motor-oils/pennzoil-maximum-power.html

Any ideas when this will hit the shelves? Think this is exactly what the doctor ordered for my 1.3T Renegade....calls for an SN+ 0W30!


They still haven't fixed "UNBEATBALE"....sigh...that's just sad.

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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247734 10/23/19 05:10 AM
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Isn't certified for G1D2 ?

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*Pennzoil's newer synthetic x30 oils all tend to be on the lighter side (closer to a 20 weight) ... A good choice in the winter months or if you are on the fence whether or not you should use a x20 or a x30 ... I also believe Pennzoil Platinum synthetic oil in your chosen oil weight will serve you about as well as anything with normal range OCI's .

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Re: Pennzoil Maximum Power 0W30 [Re: HoosierJeeper] #5247781 10/23/19 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddie
Isn't certified for G1D2 ?
No its not, strangely. Gena Fishbeck of Pennzoil said its GF6 already (early) though, that is something. The dexos1 GM spec goes farther than MS-13340 does. GF6 does have a good timing chain stretch (wear) test, and of course LSPI like dexos1 does.
Originally Posted by HoosierJeeper
I actually can't confirm that the Mopar stuff is SN+.... does anyone else know? So far I am thinking the best oil for the engine is Mobil 1 AFE 0W30. Right grade and meets SN+, which is probably better than MS 13340.
Good point: Mopar 0w30 MS-13340 is not SN plus. Another weird fact: No Mopar oil is SN Plus. None.
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsProductResults?accountId=-1&brandName=Mopar

You are right, M1 AFE 0w-30 is perfect for the 1.3T with the twin dexos1 & ACEA turbocharger deposit tests it passes, since its dexos1 and SN Plus, and is 0w-30 like the Owners Manual wants.. just not MS-13340 due intercompany rivalries and business partnerships (FCA-SOPUS).
https://www.exxonmobil.com/pds/PDS-...lectedFacets=&lob=All&country=US
But does Jeep (FCA) technically agree, in case of a warranty claim down the road? They would surely cover you for Mopar (their own brand) 0w-30 MS-13340, even though its not actually SN Plus as the Owner's Manual seems to demand. LSPI protection from SN Plus & dexos1 would be nice to have though, and FCA is probably not going to deny a warranty claim(?) if you use the #1 syn oil brand, M1, in their 0w30 desired weight.

M1 AFE 0w-30 is about 1/5 PAO, good enough, and does have great U.S. specs. Ravenol FES is all PAO though, and might qualify as well but is expensive and hard to get.


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Originally Posted by LotI
Originally Posted by CONMCK
Almost a 0w20.

.3cSt away. I bet the variations in batches will put it even closer...not to mention shearing during use.


HTHS is what matters.

You want low KV100 good HTHS.

Many 5w30 have been middle 9's for over a decade.

Funny that I didn't see a HTHS rating in the shell PDS.
But it will surely meet/exceed ILSAC GF6.

Wonder if this is 85%+ Alkane GTL base oil. Just another "clean" paraffin.

I still feel PAO/ POE blend in the higher groups are the better synthetic by far and provide what we want from a synthetic.


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Originally Posted by ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted by LotI
Originally Posted by CONMCK
Almost a 0w20.

.3cSt away. I bet the variations in batches will put it even closer...not to mention shearing during use.


HTHS is what matters.

You want low KV100 good HTHS.

Many 5w30 have been middle 9's for over a decade.

Funny that I didn't see a HTHS rating in the shell PDS.
But it will surely meet/exceed ILSAC GF6.

Wonder if this is 85%+ Alkane GTL base oil. Just another "clean" paraffin.

I still feel PAO/ POE blend in the higher groups are the better synthetic by far and provide what we want from a synthetic.

^This.


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