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Advantage of ethanol free fuel? #5242982 10/18/19 06:17 AM
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I found a place on my way to work that sells ethanol free fuel. I’ve tried it and I’m not sure I can tell a difference. My car seems to get the same mileage and it runs the same.


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5242990 10/18/19 06:23 AM
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In your cars?

No difference.


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5242995 10/18/19 06:29 AM
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Our local Cenex carries ethanol free fuel. The difference in my Corolla is nearly 10% better than with ethanol gas. But its about .30 a gallon more its a push.


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243011 10/18/19 06:42 AM
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In Packard, I would much prefer ethanol free fuel, because it doesn’t go bad as quickly while sitting.

In the S600, Mercedes specifically recommends ethanol free but requires high octane. Hard to find that, and I end up buying 93 octane with ethanol as that’s all I can find locally.

But in my Tundra? No real difference.

So, regular car? Don’t worry.

High performance or antique car? Different matter.

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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243014 10/18/19 06:43 AM
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It's only really a problem in carbureted cars with rubber fuel lines and such.


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243023 10/18/19 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mrdctaylor
I’ve tried it and I’m not sure I can tell a difference. My car seems to get the same mileage and it runs the same.

Why does it matter what anyone else says or thinks ? In your case, which is all I would worry about, there's seemingly no advantage.

Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243055 10/18/19 07:15 AM
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I try to use it in small engines ( lawn mower , edger , etc. ) .


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243071 10/18/19 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WyrTwister
I try to use it in small engines ( lawn mower , edger , etc. ) .

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think it helps to avoid ethanol gas in small engines. Most all the small engine manufacturers recommend an ethanol fuel treatment like, "Ethanol Shield" if you have to use it. Ethanol free motor fuel is difficult to find, and very expensive if you do.

So for small engine use you're almost better off to buy either VP or Tru Fuel at Home Depot or Lowe's. It's more expensive, but all you have to do is pour it and use it. By the time you screw around buying and treating the ethanol gas you're further ahead. Plus the stuff has a 2 year or more shelf life. Naturally if you have to mow 5 acres every week, that's a different story.

Here many of the local stations sell Av-Gas because of all the high performance boats around here. But again the stuff costs a mint.

Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243081 10/18/19 07:42 AM
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I use non ethanol fuel in everything in my signature except the
frontier. And of course all OPE


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243090 10/18/19 07:53 AM
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Anything used infrequently. Boats, small engines. Your DD, probably no real difference.


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243105 10/18/19 08:05 AM
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I tried Ethanol free gas for 3 months and the mpgs increased but it cost more and I buy gas at the most convenient location.

Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243149 10/18/19 08:48 AM
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OPE are the only engines that I use it in. Can't justify the cost otherwise.

In fact, my vintage 1988 Homelite trimmer still has the sticker that says "Do not use Gasohol".

I can get non-ethanol in 87 and 90 octane locally. The same garage sells 110 octane race gas, though I haven't a use for that myself. Yet. grin2

Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243302 10/18/19 11:25 AM
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I usually buy 30 gallons of it at a time because the only local station that sells it is 25 miles away. I try to use it exclusively in my small carbureted engines and outboard. It can save you the trouble of having to take the carb apart to remove the gum and varnish left by ethanol fuels.

I wouldn’t pay the premium to use it in a vehicle unless it was going to be parked for months.

Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243308 10/18/19 11:29 AM
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In my fuel injected vehicles ethanol blend is not an issue. And all my small carbureted engines ethanol-free is all I use and a fuel stabilizer. I have not had a carburetor related issue in years nor any starting problems after seasonal storage


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Re: Advantage of ethanol free fuel? [Re: mrdctaylor] #5243311 10/18/19 11:33 AM
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Energy density of ethanol is less than that of gasoline, which in theory should lower your MPG. It may be unnoticeable with E10 vs. E85. Other than that, it's said that it gums up carburetors, deteriorates rubber fuel lines, and generally turns bad over time, but I've never experienced it.


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