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2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? #5242807 10/17/19 09:28 PM
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Hey all I was hoping for some info on these cars, may not be needing an SUV but I still need more room then my 12 G37x sedan. The Infiniti is great fun but I'd also like something a little more comfortable for me and the dog. I really am not up to date on the RWD chassis Toyta/Lexus sedans and was wondering if there any major teething issues with these? Are these another 200-250,000 (easy) mile engine and transmission cars like the old GS300 and LS400/430? I was thinking a 12-13 because I'd rather have the 6 speed AISIN AWD transmission then the 8 speed in the 2014+ which I've heard still has issues at least pre 2016, and that is out of my budget. I figured one of these would be significantly less expensive to maintain then an 11-12 LS460 AWD which is also in the cars but would be open to those as well if the AT issues are sorted. Thanks in advance.

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I own a 2015 GS350 AWD I bought CPO. Had 11k miles on it when I bought it. Now 30k. Totally reliable, although this is not a lot of miles. Mine has the 6 speed transmission. The 8 speed was only on the RWD models. Not sure when that changed.

A good friend has a 2013 AWD with 155k. Has only had recommended services and normal maintenance. Absolutely flawless. Drives as new.


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Re: 2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? [Re: GZRider] #5243010 10/18/19 06:42 AM
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I also bought a 2013 GS350 F Sport RWD on CPO. Wonderful car.
The 8 speed started in 2014, I believe; RWD only.
The AWD cars continued to use the 6 speed.

This is one of the best Lexus, and that is saying something.
Except gas mileage... But who cares with a car this fun?




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Re: 2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? [Re: GZRider] #5243285 10/18/19 11:11 AM
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I don't know a lot about the GS 350 but I do know a little something about the LS460...and the years you mentioned 11-12 AWD...really in my opinion are pretty darn good cars in terms of reliability and performance/luxury/comfort. I think you'd be able to put 150,000 miles on one of those with very few issues. Control arms are the "big repair" and believe those are the single most overblown issue on the entire internet. The drive train in the LS460 was the same from 2007-2018...it's pretty solid and reliable (excellent 8 speed Aisin's transmission...I'm talking bullet proof...absolutely an excellent piece of machinery that enabled me to average nearly 26 mpg in a V8 car). They're so reliable that you can buy one on ebay for under $1,200 bucks (because no one needs them, they don't break, there is no demand).

But I'm sure the GS 350 is a great car too.

Re: 2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? [Re: GZRider] #5243491 10/18/19 02:39 PM
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Appreciate all the responses. It sounds like all you guys are pretty happy with your Toyota/Lexus sedans and how they are holding up. It's nice to hear people with AWD versions are also are passing 150k miles without any powetrain issues and just normal maintenance on their cars. Coming from the G37 I'm thinking I'd like something that's still a bit of a drivers car so that is why I am leaning toward the GS but I've really got to test drive an example or two of both again to figure out which I'd prefer. Not that worried about control arms, I'd rather have to change them then say and I'm just spit-balling here a transmission or inner timing cover gasket and timing chain driven water pump (raises shaking fist to sky while screaming Why Nissan Why!)

Re: 2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? [Re: GZRider] #5243561 10/18/19 04:09 PM
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The AWD is a good choice if you need it, such as in snowy areas. Otherwise RWD may make sense...
The GS350 F Sport RWD have different size wheel and tire for front vs back, so you can't rotate.
And there are fewer tire choices; my car has the Michelin Pilots; aka expensive!
AWD and non-GS F Sport cars have the same wheel tire, so you save $$ there.

Either way, these are great cars. I highly recommend the GS.


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Re: 2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? [Re: GZRider] #5243658 10/18/19 06:47 PM
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I have 13' GS350 awd with 110k miles on it. Got it in 2014 used, the car is totally bullet proof, the only thing that "broke" is battery, rapleced 2 months ago, beside that nothing but regular maintenance.

Re: 2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? [Re: JeffKeryk] #5243721 10/18/19 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
I also bought a 2013 GS350 F Sport RWD on CPO. Wonderful car.
The 8 speed started in 2014, I believe; RWD only.
The AWD cars continued to use the 6 speed.

This is one of the best Lexus, and that is saying something.
Except gas mileage... But who cares with a car this fun?




I drove this particular Lexus a lot, and if it is fun, it s at the bottom of the list.
Only Lexus can make RWD car with understeer tendency.

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Re: 2012-2014 Lexus GS350 AWD Reliability? [Re: edyvw] #5243809 10/18/19 11:55 PM
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The Germans build better handling cars and wagons I agree. Their interiors are unmatched on the high end stuff. Lexus and Mazda are just imitating them and modern Infiniti interiors seem inspired by a drunk child's take on a last gen Volvo. Break downs can be dangerous in some very remote areas I have to travel to, reliability is a first line priority, sporty handling is secondary to that. If work allowed and I was gonna be in one location for a good length of time I'd probably pick up a B7 S4 or 07-9 335i or Audi TT to fix up and play with before flipping because well their fun as heck. I cannot think of any AWD Audi or MB or BMW with 300+hp in an NA engine that will be reliable as a daily driver well past 100k miles without major engine (rod bearings or valve seals or worse) or transmission work.

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Thanks, glad to hear the car has treated you so well! Have you gotten a chance to put the AWD system to the test in any snow/ice?

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Need AWD and I'm probably the one guy out there that wants the base rims, I prefer 17's with the 225/50/17's thicker sidewall for some of the roads I find myself on. Upon purchase I will shod it in some Conti DWS's or BF Goodrich G Sport Comp2 A/S's, or if I'm feeling flush the Michi Pilot Sport 3 A/S's. They all handle dry and wet very well and with a decent AWD system can take on any snow up to bumper height, which is all you can ask from an A/S tire.

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Originally Posted by GZRider
The Germans build better handling cars and wagons I agree. Their interiors are unmatched on the high end stuff. Lexus and Mazda are just imitating them and modern Infiniti interiors seem inspired by a drunk child's take on a last gen Volvo. Break downs can be dangerous in some very remote areas I have to travel to, reliability is a first line priority, sporty handling is secondary to that. If work allowed and I was gonna be in one location for a good length of time I'd probably pick up a B7 S4 or 07-9 335i or Audi TT to fix up and play with before flipping because well their fun as heck. I cannot think of any AWD Audi or MB or BMW with 300+hp in an NA engine that will be reliable as a daily driver well past 100k miles without major engine (rod bearings or valve seals or worse) or transmission work.

As I stated on other thread, of more than 30 cars I owned, I had three Japanese, Mazda Millenia, and currently Toyota Sienna and Land Cruiser (In Europe).
Only Millenia and Sienna did not want to start out of nowhere.
I worked for consulting company that had several of these GS350. They are OK vehicles, underwhelming in every aspect.
If you want AWD, get used Audi A6 3.0T with supercharge. Engine proved itself as very stout, AWD is best in business, and ZF transmission is something Lexus might offer in 50 years.


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Well come on man,the Mazda Millenia had an electrical system that seemed to be desgined by the prince of darkness himself so no surprises. Pretty sure it's on the list with the 96-99 Taurus with cars mechanics won't pay $500 for. The Siesta is a dog and another US built teamcraft Toyota I wouldn't own, it's not like I was considering a Honda Oddity or a Dodge Gypsyvan either, vans are terrible for a variety of reasons. None of those have anything to do with a modern(ish) GS350 AWD. I need a reliable surefooted AWD sedan or wagon that is first and foremost reliable and secondly can be repaired away from the dealer chain if an issue does crop up and third doesn't cost too much to run in repairs and maintenance costs. Owning any Audi outside of warranty in a lot of places I travel in the Pac Northwest, Nevada, Idaho ect means paying near a grand in towing to the nearest dealer (200-500 milles in some cases) if/when something does break that I cannot figure out or fix it myself. It's also pretty easy to get a competent independent mechanic that works on Honda, Toyota, Chevy, Ford and Subaru stuff within 30-50 miles of most small Western US towns, worst case scenario. And most of those guys will be happy to pop the hood on a Lexus or Acura even if they charge you a little more. None of the ones I've met has the scantools to talk to an Audi or MB or BMW product..

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IF I could find an affordable bidirectional scan-tool that could talk to an Audi/VW product (under $1000 with low/no yearly) I'd actually consider owning one used more seriously. Any idea what are the best years with regards to reliability for the ZF box/3.0 SC combo? Any years with particularly glitchy electronics or sensors that should be avoided? Aside that, I don't have German car money, wish I did but I don't.

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Originally Posted by GZRider
Well come on man,the Mazda Millenia had an electrical system that seemed to be desgined by the prince of darkness himself so no surprises. Pretty sure it's on the list with the 96-99 Taurus with cars mechanics won't pay $500 for. The Siesta is a dog and another US built teamcraft Toyota I wouldn't own, it's not like I was considering a Honda Oddity or a Dodge Gypsyvan either, vans are terrible for a variety of reasons. None of those have anything to do with a modern(ish) GS350 AWD. I need a reliable surefooted AWD sedan or wagon that is first and foremost reliable and secondly can be repaired away from the dealer chain if an issue does crop up and third doesn't cost too much to run in repairs and maintenance costs. Owning any Audi outside of warranty in a lot of places I travel in the Pac Northwest, Nevada, Idaho ect means paying near a grand in towing to the nearest dealer (200-500 milles in some cases) if/when something does break that I cannot figure out or fix it myself. It's also pretty easy to get a competent independent mechanic that works on Honda, Toyota, Chevy, Ford and Subaru stuff within 30-50 miles of most small Western US towns, worst case scenario. And most of those guys will be happy to pop the hood on a Lexus or Acura even if they charge you a little more. None of the ones I've met has the scantools to talk to an Audi or MB or BMW product..

It is GS350 not Toyota Corolla. What you described (and I live in Wester US, and I travel that region a lot) if it is like that, you need 4Runner with manual transmission.
All scantools today, decent ones will read any European car. If mechanic does not have scantool that can read specific codes, I would not give him tire to change, let alone to open the hood of GS350. On Amazon one can find Autel or Foxwell for $100 that will read all specific codes on any car.
I think you are overestimating how simple GS350 is.


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