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Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend #5238566 10/13/19 02:01 PM
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My owners manual recommends a syn blend 5w20 oil. I bought 6 quarts of Havoline 5w20 conv oil in a box.

Would it be wise to run it as is or should I blend it with some Havoline Pro DS 5w20?

I'm not due for my next OCI until March 2020.


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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238580 10/13/19 02:26 PM
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I would run it as is.....it's most likely a syn-blend anyway.


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Is this the Fiesta? I didn't know anyone rec'd a Blend.

Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238584 10/13/19 02:34 PM
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"SAE 5W-20 provides optimum fuel economy and durability performance. This synthetic blend engine oil, carrying the API Resource Conserving designation, is suitable for use in domestic and import passenger cars, trucks and SUVs specifying this viscosity grade. "

From the website https://www.chevronlubricants.com/en_us/home/products/havoline-motor-oil.html

Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238587 10/13/19 02:36 PM
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Havoline 5w20 conventional oil is Synthetic Blend as well as Valvoline Daily Protection.


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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238588 10/13/19 02:37 PM
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Fords have used synthetic blend as factory fill for years, but as long as the oil meets the spec you are good. I am sure it does anyway.


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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238591 10/13/19 02:44 PM
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That's good to know, thanks.
In that case I will run Havoline 5w20 conv at my next OCI.

How about QS Ultimate Durability conv 5w20, is that also a syn blend by any chance?
I was talking to the tech at a Walmart this morning about possibly running their $20 pit stop with QS conv and a Fram filter. He says they torque all drain bolts to spec.

My city doesn't accept used oil at the curb any more, so I was thinking I'd get my OCIs at WM and let them deal with the used oil, etc.
They also use bulk oils in bags, so long term it's better for the environment.

He told me QS and Havoline are both "watery" oils. I used to think that about Havoline but not QS.

I'm going to run this Havoline conv next OCI. I can't attempt to speak about this oil until I've ran it and seen how it seems to perform.


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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: pbm] #5238593 10/13/19 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pbm
I would run it as is.....it's most likely a syn-blend anyway.



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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238594 10/13/19 02:45 PM
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ConocoPhillips (Ford) has called theirs syn blend for years. Others have it conventional, same stuff. If it's SN+ it's really syn blend. Worry not. The QS for twenty bucks at Wally is a good deal.

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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238596 10/13/19 02:46 PM
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There is a world of difference between calls for and recommends.


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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Warstud] #5238598 10/13/19 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Warstud
Is this the Fiesta? I didn't know anyone rec'd a Blend.


Yes


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Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238615 10/13/19 03:14 PM
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Ford has "recommended" Motorcraft syn-blend oil for at least 20 years, and millions of vehicles with billions of miles have used "conventional" oil with no issues.

As said though, a SN+ (and most SN) oil is a blend (since there is not definition of blend, there is no way to know what percent is what), so you are fine, especially with the Havoline box, it is a very under-rated oil.


5k/6mo:'18 Santa Fe:PP 10W30/OEM, '18 Soul:Synpower 5W30/PG, '10 Santa Fe:Synpower HM 5w30/D+, '04 F150/Magnatec 10w30/ST
1yr:'12 xB:M1EP 0W20/CQB, '02 F150:Magnatec 5W20/D+, '94 VT1100:Peak 15W40/D+
Re: Conv When Car Manual Calls For Syn Blend [Re: Mr_Luke] #5238625 10/13/19 03:40 PM
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watery oil. LOL!!!! I guess he likes pancake syrup in his sump.

Oils today are all very good. you can close your eye and grab any bottle of the correct viscocity oil at walmart and it will run 5k ocis just as good as any other. supertech included,

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I used to say, If synthetic isn't really synthetic then what is in a syn blend?!

Also I used to say," There are no conventional ILSAC passenger car oils." They are all mid group blends (II, III) to meet F.E. Standards

But, This terminology doesn't matter.

It's all service category (SN+) , ILSAC GF-5/6 requirements
then any other manufacturer's req approval on top of that.

I forget what ford's spec. for NA 5W20 small engine is these days.

I am thinking Ford WSS-M2C948-B for turbo and Ford WSS-M2C913-C for others

But I'm not sure.

Ford guys to chime in!

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What is the engine in this Fiesta?


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