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Re: Failed Honda Compliance Bushings after 42k miles [Re: supton] #5233980 10/08/19 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by supton
I've noticed that they seem to really flex when I lift my wife's car, but I don't see cracking (yet).

I wouldn't think an alignment would be required after this job, but, I'll ask anyhow--is it needed?


I'll definitely do an alignment. Every time you switch these parts they can be off by a bit, even if you are just unbolting and bolting without replacing any bushing.


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Re: Failed Honda Compliance Bushings after 42k miles [Re: carviewsonic] #5234118 10/08/19 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by carviewsonic
What are the symptoms when they are shot? Just wondering if that's something in my 2007 2.4 Accord's future?


Massive inside tire wear usually. There is some handling funkiness that will go on as well, but most people don't notice it and its not as pronounced on the I4 cars. On the V6 cars you can notice it during full throttle romps, the car will pull side to side.


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Re: Failed Honda Compliance Bushings after 42k miles [Re: amblerman] #5234199 10/08/19 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ctechbob

You could always try out the Acura TL bushings. Same size and they were a heavier car. Are they different? Dunno, they are different part numbers and I'd like to think Honda made them a little stiffer to deal with the extra weight, but again, could just be a different number.

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Of all the Honda things I'm a fan of, I'm not a fan of this particular design.

Thanks for the idea, I will try that next time.
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What kind of bushing press is that?

Originally Posted by ctechbob
There's not really a poly bushing for these styles. There's a metal version, but its $$$ and I've got to imagine it will be fairly harsh, noisy, and probably still not last forever.

It looks like he's using either the official Honda Bushing tool or something similar.

I use a combination of ball joint pess parts when I do mine, plus a hollowed out and shaved down old bushing.

http://www.9circleint.com/products/...-front-lower-control-arm-bushing-tool-3/
Originally Posted by Silverado12
Any chance oil got on them? They will deteriorate if oil gets on them.

No oil.
Originally Posted by carviewsonic
What are the symptoms when they are shot? Just wondering if that's something in my 2007 2.4 Accord's future?

For the average driver, no unusual behavior was noticed, at least not yet. I noticed the cracks during a routine inspection. Eventually the bushings will crack (completely) and cause the arm to hit the subframe, which will result in loud knocking sounds. Obviously new bushings will improve ride quality and steering.
Originally Posted by supton
I've noticed that they seem to really flex when I lift my wife's car, but I don't see cracking (yet).

I wouldn't think an alignment would be required after this job, but, I'll ask anyhow--is it needed?

An alignment was performed this morning. The driver front toe required a minor tweak (.17 back to .00 on one side) but the passenger side remained perfect at .00.

Originally Posted by amblerman


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Re: Failed Honda Compliance Bushings after 42k miles [Re: 1978elcamino] #5234574 10/09/19 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1978elcamino
I use to have a chevy cobalt, replaced the same bushings with the moog problem solver solid bushings @65.00 each. Pricey but they lasted much longer than the oem's, still solid when I sold it and dident notice any difference in noise.


Similar experience on my 2001 Civic. Originals were bad at about 90k miles. Put MOOG units in, and they still look fine at 330k miles.

Re: Failed Honda Compliance Bushings after 42k miles [Re: MarkM66] #5234886 10/09/19 11:45 AM
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I used the Heim joint type in my GP and they are great, no additional noise and they don't split. The W bodies, Venture vans, Century etc all use this type and fail often.
You notice it right away, the front end makes noise going over even small bumps.


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Re: Failed Honda Compliance Bushings after 42k miles [Re: The Critic] #5236505 10/10/19 11:21 PM
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They actually make them. $200 for the set. I've kindof been curious to try them on my TL, and still might depending on how long the OEM bushings I just put in this year last.

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Re: Failed Honda Compliance Bushings after 42k miles [Re: ctechbob] #5236562 10/11/19 03:54 AM
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Uh..Mr Bob, that's actually a couple of rolls of electrical tape with either kitchen cabinet pulls or radio knobs from an old AMC Pacer. I'm afraid you've been duped.


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