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Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км #5231589 10/05/19 11:47 PM
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Oil: Castrol EDGE 10W-60 (SN, A3/B4)
Unit: KIA CEED, 2008
Engine: 1.6 G4FC, 122 hp
Chip: no
On unit: 150130 km
On oil: 10380 km
Time: 05.11.2018 — 15.06.2019,
Oil pan: 3 L


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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5231760 10/06/19 08:23 AM
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Wow that little Kia really kicked the oils butt! Looks spent at 10k?


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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5231772 10/06/19 08:42 AM
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It the viscosity manufacturer approved?
Are the gas stations used the well known, big brand ones?
10W in a Russian winter also seems a bad idea, I bet he/she use the car in -20/25C weather.

Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Audios] #5231868 10/06/19 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Audios
Wow that little Kia really kicked the oils butt! Looks spent at 10k?


That's 10K KM, or 6000-6500 miles. Looks like (somewhat) south central Russia? Not exactly Siberia? Still seems thick for any modern engine not in Australia or the Middle East.


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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5231872 10/06/19 10:22 AM
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Never saw Antimony referred by it's Latin name "Stibium". Russian lab is thorough......


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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: bullwinkle] #5231926 10/06/19 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
Originally Posted by Audios
Wow that little Kia really kicked the oils butt! Looks spent at 10k?


That's 10K KM, or 6000-6500 miles. Looks like (somewhat) south central Russia? Not exactly Siberia? Still seems thick for any modern engine not in Australia or the Middle East.


I know, thats why its even more surprising. Wonder what wiped it out so badly.


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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5231929 10/06/19 11:32 AM
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Wow. These catastrophic wear values. The proof of concept for this A5 (oil) engine... You know, this one thing, with... engine clearances, bearings gaps tolerances, and so on, and so forth, and so on, and so blah blah blah.

popcorn2 wink2

Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Onetor] #5232050 10/06/19 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Audios
Wow that little Kia really kicked the oils butt! Looks spent at 10k?


3L only oil pan confused

Originally Posted by DrDanger
It the viscosity manufacturer approved?
Are the gas stations used the well known, big brand ones?
10W in a Russian winter also seems a bad idea, I bet he/she use the car in -20/25C weather.

manufacturer thinking how sell spare parts for you only
10w = -25C by SAE J300. No problem in RU winter.


Originally Posted by bullwinkle
Originally Posted by Audios
Wow that little Kia really kicked the oils butt! Looks spent at 10k?


That's 10K KM, or 6000-6500 miles. Looks like (somewhat) south central Russia? Not exactly Siberia? Still seems thick for any modern engine not in Australia or the Middle East.

Region - Moscow
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Moscow ))


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Russian lab is thorough......

Not Russian. Lab = Zeppelin in Moscow

Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5232099 10/06/19 02:38 PM
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This exact model vehicle is not available in the States but after some searching, it appears the 2008 CEED with the 122hp 1.6L engine calls for 5w-30 oil.

Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5232304 10/06/19 06:58 PM
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Low tin and low chromium...compared to the other metals. Doesn't seem right.

Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5232573 10/07/19 02:23 AM
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Nope. All right. With 12 iron, 3 alu and 3 nickel, the lab be permitted wink2 to find 0 chromium. I have see something already many times in analyses with very low iron values.

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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5232624 10/07/19 06:28 AM
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10w60 in a 1.6 liter? WOW...hahaha...Awesome.

I'm guessing it's a short tripper based upon the 11 month 6k mile OCI. I guess the report doesn't look bad at all.

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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5232797 10/07/19 10:26 AM
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“Not Russian. Lab = Zeppelin in Moscow”




Well okay. They don’t teach geography anymore I guess.


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Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: PimTac] #5232955 10/07/19 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Well okay. They don’t teach geography anymore I guess.

Zeppelin = International CAT

Re: Castrol EDGE 10W-60. KIA CEED 1.6 G4FC - 10380 км [Re: Gubkin] #5236544 10/11/19 03:23 AM
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Something very wrong here. The TAN goes down from VOA to UOA, despite the TBN dropping through the floor (albeit with different test methods)? All the additive elements have dropped by 25% or more - I can't think of a mechanism that would do that other than gross dilution by something else or a sampling/testing issue. And yet the wear metals are in good shape.

Something odd going on here.


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