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Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) #5221250 09/24/19 12:09 PM
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A very loyal to Honda friend is looking to replace his 2000 Civic Si with something new. He's torn between the cars listed and isn't considering anything else.

The ACURA ILX:
$26
Engine
2.4L non-turbo from previous generation Civic Si
201 hp
180 torque
Transmission
8 Spd DCT

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The HONDA Civic
$24K
Engine
1.5T
205 hp
192 Torque (lower in the rev range)
Transmission
6spd manual


He asked which i would choose and i told him the Acura. I'd rather the NA engine in this scenario. The DCT gets good reviews, I like the look of the new ILX. Not much difference in price.

Which would you guys choose?

Last edited by wemay; 09/24/19 12:29 PM.

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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221260 09/24/19 12:17 PM
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Wow I hope he holds onto that 2000 Si, they are hard to come by in decent condition. I've always wanted one. I had an 08 Si, so the K20 (2.0) with the 6 speed. This is a strange one from what I know of the cars. I would personally rather have the K24 (if it really is the same version that was in the N/A Si), but Honda's manual shifting is pretty amazing. I don't know much about the DCT in the Acura.

I haven't read great things about the newer honda turbo motors (fuel dilution issues, see it pretty often even on this site). So that would worry me long term. Of course the turbo motors do offer more torque but part of the fun of the Honda engines is reving them out. So again its tough.. I like the engine in the Acura, but the transmission in the Honda. What about a 2015 Si? Best of both worlds thumbsup


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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221263 09/24/19 12:20 PM
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The Acura ILX looks much better to me, so that's the one I would choose.

Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221309 09/24/19 12:54 PM
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Well, how old is he? Or rather how old is he trying to be?

Same-ish platform, just different clothing and makeup.


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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: ZebRuaj] #5221324 09/24/19 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ZebRuaj
Well, how old is he? Or rather how old is he trying to be?

Same-ish platform, just different clothing and makeup.


Good question and pertinent indeed.

49, married with two small children. His "cap backwards" days are over but he still enjoys a spirited drive every so often.


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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221336 09/24/19 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wemay
Originally Posted by ZebRuaj
Well, how old is he? Or rather how old is he trying to be?

Same-ish platform, just different clothing and makeup.


Good question and pertinent indeed.

49, married with two small children. His "cap backwards" days are over but he still enjoys a spirited drive every so often.

In that case, I'd recommend the ILX (and I NEVER recommend that vehicle under any circumstance).


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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221357 09/24/19 01:35 PM
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Out of those two, the ILX

DO NOT ever get a Honda with the 1.5T they are horrible mad

Even though the ILX has a DCT, Honda put a torque converter in it, which gives it a big improvement over other such transmissions

Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221383 09/24/19 01:55 PM
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"DO NOT ever get a Honda with the 1.5T they are horrible"

highly subjective comment.


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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221426 09/24/19 03:07 PM
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The 1.5T has deserved reputation for fuel dilution. I have an Acura 8 speed DCT and it’s terrific. So, ILX, hands-down.

Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221530 09/24/19 05:14 PM
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I'd get the Acura.


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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221541 09/24/19 05:25 PM
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Get the Acura and play with the DCT's paddle shifters.


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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221547 09/24/19 05:30 PM
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I belive the Acura is using a dated Civic platform. I thrill what they prefer is best but the Acura may not be a better car despite the luxury treatment.

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Originally Posted by wemay
A very loyal to Honda friend is looking to replace his 2000 Civic Si with something new. He's torn between the cars listed and isn't considering anything else.

The ACURA ILX:
$26
Engine
2.4L non-turbo from previous generation Civic Si
201 hp
180 torque
Transmission
8 Spd DCT

---------------------------------------------
The HONDA Civic
$24K
Engine
1.5T
205 hp
192 Torque (lower in the rev range)
Transmission
6spd manual


He asked which i would choose and i told him the Acura. I'd rather the NA engine in this scenario. The DCT gets good reviews, I like the look of the new ILX. Not much difference in price.

Which would you guys choose?


Acura. Hands down. It has a much better engine.

Speaking of that, I got into it with a Civic SI on the freeway. Google Images says its a 2006-2009. It was pretty loud, but exhaust looked stock?

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Re: Which one... 2020 ILX vs Si Sedan (both base) [Re: wemay] #5221800 09/25/19 12:46 AM
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Neither. Keep what he has

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I love me some Honda, but right now, as with ANY new engine production for ANY manufacturer, Honda has a few bugs to work out on the 1.5T. My wife's CRV has it and it's been a good engine, no oil dilution issues but she does drive about 90 miles a day. I'd lean towards the Acura for now. Her CRV is sweet....that thing will simple haul. Lots of room and tons of creature features that I'm still figuring out.


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