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Amsoil “synthetic technology” #5217200 09/19/19 03:15 PM
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I know Amsoil has exemplary oils and have used them for years. Was interested if they are using less pao now-which again I think can be overblown in terms of real life protection. Looked up an Amsoil Distributor in Germany, which described Amsoil 5w30 signature series as synthetic technology.
AMSOIL SIGNATURE SERIES 5W-30 SYNTHETISCHES MOTORÖL.
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https://www.ato24.de/de/amsoil-signature-series-5w-30-synthetisches-motoroel.html


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Re: Amsoil “synthetic technology” [Re: spiderbypass] #5217207 09/19/19 03:27 PM
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Translation, it's a group III synthetic motor oil.


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Re: Amsoil “synthetic technology” [Re: skyactiv] #5217210 09/19/19 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skyactiv
Translation, it's a group III synthetic motor oil.


Group III and a NOACK of 6.7%.


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Re: Amsoil “synthetic technology” [Re: spiderbypass] #5217221 09/19/19 03:55 PM
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This is a list of all Amsoil products sold by the Amsoil German distributor.

https://www.ato24.de/de/search?cat=0&q=Amsoil


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Re: Amsoil “synthetic technology” [Re: spiderbypass] #5217222 09/19/19 03:56 PM
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I should have stated Germany has a law to what can be defined as synthetic.


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Re: Amsoil “synthetic technology” [Re: spiderbypass] #5217230 09/19/19 04:06 PM
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This is from same website where they use the term vollsynthetisches PAO to describe this Ravenol 0w30.

https://www.ato24.de/de/ravenol-fes-sae-0w-30.html

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Re: Amsoil “synthetic technology” [Re: spiderbypass] #5217257 09/19/19 04:56 PM
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Since the entire industry is heading towards di turbo, consider group 3 is better then group 4 at combating lspi. Maybe pao is better in the cold and stay in grade 0w40's, but the industry is driving formulas and nothing is bigger then the di turbo driving formulas. But since they did that a long time ago, very likely it was a cost savings move. But for people with a di turbo wh research every aspect of combating lspi with a lubrication formula, Amsoil SS is one of the few solid choices.

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Originally Posted by skyactiv
Translation, it's a group III synthetic motor oil.

In Germany a Grp3 can't be labeled synthetic.

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Originally Posted by burla
Since the entire industry is heading towards di turbo, consider group 3 is better then group 4 at combating lspi. Maybe pao is better in the cold and stay in grade 0w40's, but the industry is driving formulas and nothing is bigger then the di turbo driving formulas. But since they did that a long time ago, very likely it was a cost savings move. But for people with a di turbo wh research every aspect of combating lspi with a lubrication formula, Amsoil SS is one of the few solid choices.

Some grp3+'s have pao like numbers. For example, Mobil's Visom 6 is a Grp3+ base stock with a VI of 142 and a noack of 8%. Chevron and Shell have similar high grade grp3+ base stocks.

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