Originally Posted by fdcg27
Originally Posted by edyvw
@fdcg27:
Here is one that goes along your line of thinking:
What "really" brought down Boeing 737 MX
I think article has some really good points that could contribute to the accident.
However, it would never pass peer review if it was submitted to some academic journal in the field.
His thinking is:
1. There are deep structural issues around training in Indonesia, Ethiopia etc. (agree). It is situation that got out of hand. Everyone is corrupted, they just look at the money etc.
2. Who knows what they were thinking in Boeing. [censored] happens. But they are really good people who would never do this intentionally (unlike those in indonesia and Ethiopia).
The comments section is fairly interesting.
Not so much my line of thinking as it is reality.
There aren't enough pilots who won their wings though either their militaries or by flying freight of one kind or another in crap aircraft in difficult conditions to man the world's narrow body fleet.
The military guys either get good or they get washed out while the civie freight dogs either get good or they get dead.
We instead have training academy guys with little real flying experience as a result.
Not good nor bad, but also not a recipe for really skilled airmen.
The NYT article points out the shortcomings of these crews in dealing with any real problem.
I agree with that. However, most countries do not have USAF, or similar size airforce. Average US super carrier has more aircrafts than pretty much whole Central and Eastern Europe except Poland. So, these schools are of outmost importance in training pilots, and of course depends how they do it. The US has its own issues around this too. Remember Colgan flight?
However, problem with article and author is that author in general through his previous research is focused on CRM. He does acknowledge that Boeing messed it up, massively, but he let's it go. I think if he wanted to do due diligence he suppose to have series of article where he would separately address training, CRM, Boeing, FAA. In the end remember, Boeing pilots replicated Ethiopian flight and were unable to recover it. Also, he only ones mention aerodynamical stall specific to MAX in the beginning and never again.