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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5210152 09/11/19 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl


Who cares when there has been only one other production car which was not a Tesla to drive this track? B F D.


Huh?! Dozens upon dozens of production cars have published laps at Leguna Seca.

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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: UncleDave] #5210593 09/12/19 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDave
Model S fastest 4 door EVER electric or not at Laguna Seca!

https://electrek.co/2019/09/11/tesla-model-s-breaks-laguna-seca-lap-records-elon-musk/

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They set a record for 4 door car at a short track that 4 door performance sedans hardly ever show up to set records at........OK


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: JeffKeryk] #5210603 09/12/19 01:29 AM
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Plaid Mode Model S and X coming in a year. Adding a 3rd Motor.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1171962132721614848?s=21


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: DoubleWasp] #5210615 09/12/19 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubleWasp
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Model S fastest 4 door EVER electric or not at Laguna Seca!

https://electrek.co/2019/09/11/tesla-model-s-breaks-laguna-seca-lap-records-elon-musk/

UD


They set a record for 4 door car at a short track that 4 door performance sedans hardly ever show up to set records at........OK

Also, short track + electric...

Still, it's a helluva accomplishment. Cant take away from that.


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: JeffKeryk] #5210618 09/12/19 02:04 AM
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Question...why not a twin turbo late 90s viper? So much cooler and faster than Tesla. Not to mention cheaper. Meh.


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: Ws6] #5210632 09/12/19 03:57 AM
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Question...why not a twin turbo late 90s viper? So much cooler and faster than Tesla. Not to mention cheaper. Meh.


Do you want to die? Because that’s how you die. That is a vehicle that does not give a [censored] whether you live or die. I’d love to go for a few all out laps on a track in one!

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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: Skippy722] #5210636 09/12/19 04:09 AM
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Question...why not a twin turbo late 90s viper? So much cooler and faster than Tesla. Not to mention cheaper. Meh.


Do you want to die? Because that’s how you die. That is a vehicle that does not give a [censored] whether you live or die. I’d love to go for a few all out laps on a track in one!


At least it's honest about it, unlike Tesla, who pumps out vehicles that take nearly 200 feet to stop from 60mph and then says "Oh, yeah...we need to update the software, didn't know it did that...", lol!

I mean, if I'm going to get wonky body-panel gaps and kit-car level build quality, then get one with some soul.

*ETA Yes, I've owned and driven 5-600hp cars...they are like really hot bipolar girlfriend that carries a knife.





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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: Ws6] #5210641 09/12/19 04:53 AM
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At least it's honest about it, unlike Tesla, who pumps out vehicles that take nearly 200 feet to stop from 60mph and then says "Oh, yeah...we need to update the software, didn't know it did that...", lol!



Pots calling the kettle black for sure here...

...and then there was the second recall in 2018 , partially to fix the stuff that didn't get fixed on the first recall,

complete failures, foot to the floor, incorrectly fixed the first time, loose bolts, long stopping distances.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car...udi-recall-sedans-suvs-for-brake-issues/

Tesla fixed the "problem" without multiple trips to the dealer,
VW's software problem was just as bad if not worse as the ABS could fail, affected more vehicles and required at least one trip to correct.

LOL is right.

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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: E365] #5210680 09/12/19 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by E365
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Who cares when there has been only one other production car which was not a Tesla to drive this track? B F D.


Huh?! Dozens upon dozens of production cars have published laps at Leguna Seca.


There was only one other EV (Jag). I left out that context.


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: UncleDave] #5210681 09/12/19 06:37 AM
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Who cares when there has been only one other production car which was not a Tesla to drive this track? B F D.


GM predicts to get to OTA in another year or two (what's that a decade after tesla? ) - I guess the franchise laws will change as others catch up.


Lots of production cars on Laguna Seca.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna-seca-post-1988

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I meant EV.


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: JeffKeryk] #5210786 09/12/19 09:07 AM
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The 2016 Dodge Viper ACR holds the current production car lap record with 1:28.65.
The Porsche 918 Spyder held the previous production car lap record with 1:29.89.
A Mission Motors Mission R, ridden by Steve Rapp, holds the outright EV lap record with a time of 1:31.376.


The Model 3 isn't far behind... 1:37.5
Model 3 @ Laguna Seca


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At least it's honest about it, unlike Tesla, who pumps out vehicles that take nearly 200 feet to stop from 60mph and then says "Oh, yeah...we need to update the software, didn't know it did that...", lol!



Pots calling the kettle black for sure here...

...and then there was the second recall in 2018 , partially to fix the stuff that didn't get fixed on the first recall,

complete failures, foot to the floor, incorrectly fixed the first time, loose bolts, long stopping distances.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car...udi-recall-sedans-suvs-for-brake-issues/

Tesla fixed the "problem" without multiple trips to the dealer,
VW's software problem was just as bad if not worse as the ABS could fail, affected more vehicles and required at least one trip to correct.

LOL is right.

UD

Ya, you don't see me in a VW or Audi either, do you? My girlfriend DID briefly consider an A3, so I went on a test ride with her. Not impressed with the car, but I understand the A3 isn't a "real" Audi.


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: JeffKeryk] #5210841 09/12/19 10:26 AM
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I saw the video of the couple asleep in their Tesla while driving in Boston and now I'm very interested in getting one for myself

Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: Alfred_B] #5210848 09/12/19 10:34 AM
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I saw the video of the couple asleep in their Tesla while driving in Boston and now I'm very interested in getting one for myself

Screw that. A computer will never replicate a human brain...for better or worse. The Tesla may be 100% flawless in driving the vehicle, but when it comes to seeing the guy ahead weaving, or the car that just doesn't look like it will stop for the redlight, the human brain is peerless.


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Re: Tesla vs Porsche... [Re: JeffKeryk] #5210957 09/12/19 01:11 PM
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Leguna Seca lap in a Model S with the prototype 3-motor Plaid Mode powertrain.



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