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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: madRiver] #5207183 09/07/19 04:24 PM
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We have X and 8+ models; however, we are not in a hurry to replace them; totally, what we need right now


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: sloinker] #5207195 09/07/19 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sloinker

A little side story about laptops. My brother the Apple only fan was visiting a few weeks ago, he had a new Mac laptop with an i7 processor iirc. My daughter had her relatively new Lenovo with an i5. We were eating out and they both were utilizing the restaurant's wifi. A contest developed between them with their laptops compared performance. My brother actually got angry when the $700 Lenovo outperformed his Mac on every test they could conceive of. I didn't have the heart to tell him that it had a solid state drive and the maximum amount of memory that would fit. Without those factors I'm pretty sure the outcome probably would have been different.


A test of a restaurants WiFi isn’t really a fair comparison... my base model dual core i5 MacBook Pro is quicker at most things except graphics intensive tasks than my brothers quad core i7 gaming laptop with double the RAM.


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: madRiver] #5207332 09/07/19 08:24 PM
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Back in July, I was limping along with an iPhone 6 that was in the ballpark of 4 years old. I'd replaced one screen(it fell out of my shirt pocket without a case), plus did the $30 battery last year. It was having some issues, though-namely that its reception had degraded to the point where it no longer worked in a good part of the basement at work(where I spend a lot of time, and also where I need to be reachable if away from my desk) and the built-in handset volume was so low that hearing with a lot of background noise was futile.

I needed a phone, and at the time a friend advised waiting because new ones were on the horizon. I went ahead and got an XR-it's not the first time I've bought a phone close to end of cycle, and honestly I've never regretted it. In this case, I needed it now, and decided that the XR was the best option for me. Also tying into the "need it now" thing, new models often have sporadic availability after their initial release.

My biggest complaint about the XR is that it's a heavy beast(it made me appreciate just how light the 6 is) and also the screen is almost TOO large. Holding it with one hand, I have a hard time sometimes reaching the far edge of the screen. With that said, though, I like it. The lack of a home button took a few days of getting use to, but I don't miss it now. FaceID was also a bit of an adjustment, but I've found that on the whole I like it better than Touch ID. I appreciate the fact that it works when I'm wearing gloves, or if I do something stupid like sand my fingerprints off(that's caught me a few times with touch ID). In normal use, it works so seamlessly that I don't even think about it. About the only times it catches me are in the morning when I grab my phone to check it and am still half asleep-FaceID will fail because I often only open one eye, or because I'm holding the phone too close to my face. Under normal circumstances, with the phone at a "natural" distance, it just unlocks without my thinking about it.


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: Linctex] #5207404 09/07/19 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Linctex
I'm never of the "front-line of technology".

I wait for items to depreciate at least 60%-70% from new before I buy.

I've got better things to spend my money on.

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I am still using my 4 year old lg flip phone.


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: jakewells] #5207506 09/08/19 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jakewells
Originally Posted by Linctex
I'm never of the "front-line of technology".

I wait for items to depreciate at least 60%-70% from new before I buy.

I've got better things to spend my money on.

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I am still using my 4 year old lg flip phone.


It is not a money issue however its nice to get 45% off the price with what I have in hand unopened. I would be happier to get more then 3 years out my iPhone 7 but fixing not worth it as charger port replacements apparently are junky parts and don't last.

Using my phone I generate roughly 10% of my billable consulting hours via business chat, email, code reviews etc sitting typically waiting around for my kids activities.

Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: madRiver] #5208328 09/09/19 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jakewells
Originally Posted by Linctex
I'm never of the "front-line of technology".

I wait for items to depreciate at least 60%-70% from new before I buy.

I've got better things to spend my money on.

+1
I am still using my 4 year old lg flip phone.


I wish I can find a phone that will last that long. I'm done paying for new phones, only to have to crap out by the time an 'upgrade' comes along, I just wish I wouldn't be stuck with this garbage LG phone when I made the decision to not upgrade.

Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: madRiver] #5209166 09/10/19 11:27 AM
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My 15yr/old son saved up his money from working his summer jobs and gave me the $800+ it cost to buy him a new iPhone XR. He couldn't be happier. I call it a colossal waste of money.

As much as I think apple products are great. I rocked a 5c and an SE. I took the leap to droids a while back and hold fast to the <$200 crowd for my own use. Love my Moto e5 supra.

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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: JTK] #5209202 09/10/19 12:18 PM
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My 15yr/old son saved up his money from working his summer jobs and gave me the $800+ it cost to buy him a new iPhone XR. He couldn't be happier. I call it a colossal waste of money.


I agree phones have gotten pretty expensive, at the same time I use that device more than anything else. Its used for maps in the car, music via spotify, recording biking routes/workouts, taking notes, high quality pictures and video, email, on the spot research or how-to videos, and much more. Its really a one stop device. It is a huge expense but just like a vehicle if its something you use all the time it may as well be a decent one. I usually wait for the flagship model to drop in price, I think last year my Note 8 was about $600.

Think about what a decent digital camera (not even DSLR) cost not too long ago... These new phones blow them away in most cases and its just a built in feature.


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: HemiHawk] #5209235 09/10/19 01:18 PM
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My 15yr/old son saved up his money from working his summer jobs and gave me the $800+ it cost to buy him a new iPhone XR. He couldn't be happier. I call it a colossal waste of money.


I agree phones have gotten pretty expensive, at the same time I use that device more than anything else. Its used for maps in the car, music via spotify, recording biking routes/workouts, taking notes, high quality pictures and video, email, on the spot research or how-to videos, and much more. Its really a one stop device. It is a huge expense but just like a vehicle if its something you use all the time it may as well be a decent one. I usually wait for the flagship model to drop in price, I think last year my Note 8 was about $600.

Think about what a decent digital camera (not even DSLR) cost not too long ago... These new phones blow them away in most cases and its just a built in feature.

One of my coworkers dropped his six year old cell phone. When he went to replace it, he realized he had gone from having a cell phone that could do other things to a device that did lots of things and occasionally made calls too. So he stepped up to something pricey, got the fancy case, and is hoping for 5 years or whatever--but I suspect if it quits after 3 then he won't care too much, as it's more than just a phone he carries around and makes a call once in awhile.

It's all in how you use it. I use my cell phone more than my home laptop. Sometimes the laptop is only used because of the keyboard.


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: HemiHawk] #5209300 09/10/19 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiHawk


I agree phones have gotten pretty expensive, at the same time I use that device more than anything else. Its used for maps in the car, music via spotify, recording biking routes/workouts, taking notes, high quality pictures and video, email, on the spot research or how-to videos, and much more. Its really a one stop device. It is a huge expense but just like a vehicle if its something you use all the time it may as well be a decent one. I usually wait for the flagship model to drop in price, I think last year my Note 8 was about $600.

Think about what a decent digital camera (not even DSLR) cost not too long ago... These new phones blow them away in most cases and its just a built in feature.


I absolutely agree. I'd be afraid to know the time per day I stare at mine and like you say, for about everything! So the cost can be justifiable. In my years of cell phone ownership, I've been lucky to have had only one disaster with them, and it was with my iPhone SE. I had only had it about 3 weeks and it went for a dip in a hot tub. I stupidly put it in my swimsuit pocket and didn't realize for about 5-10min that it was under water. It was toast. I had paid ~$430 for it through my verizon contract I had at the time. After that I told myself, never again with the high cost phones. Way too easy to destroy them with one drop, dunk, etc. You can't say that so much for other pricey items like TVs, PCs, etc.


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: madRiver] #5209564 09/10/19 08:05 PM
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I am going to return my iPhone XR and wait. The new one (iPhone 11) is better a tad and dropped current price by $150of iPhone XR. ($749 -> $599) The Verizon discount that lured me in the end is only $100 less.

I found a specific cord that seems better for charging.

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If it wasn't for my son dropping my 8 Plus causing the GPS reception to go out, I'd hang on to it for a couple more years. On a good day I'll get 1/2 mi position accuracy.


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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: madRiver] #5210457 09/11/19 08:11 PM
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New I-Phone 11 debuts on Sept 13th for pre orders, Sept 20th release, starts at $699.00 to $849 depending on how much memory you want, comes in 6 colors too! 6.1 Retina display, longer battery life then the XS.

New iphone watch coming out for $199.00 too.
Apple is adjusting to market demands for more reasonable costing phones I assume.


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Originally Posted by alarmguy
New I-Phone 11 debuts on Sept 13th for pre orders, Sept 20th release, starts at $699.00 to $849 depending on how much memory you want, comes in 6 colors too! 6.1 Retina display, longer battery life then the XS.

New iphone watch coming out for $199.00 too.
Apple is adjusting to market demands for more reasonable costing phones I assume.


The Watch 3 is $199, the 4 and 5 are more expensive. But yes, I definitely think they realized people aren’t crazy about spending $1,000+ on a phone. I was going to buy 2 new XR’s for me and my wife, but for $100 more we’ll be getting the 11.

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Re: "old" vs new iPhone XR [Re: HemiHawk] #5210709 09/12/19 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HemiHawk
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My 15yr/old son saved up his money from working his summer jobs and gave me the $800+ it cost to buy him a new iPhone XR. He couldn't be happier. I call it a colossal waste of money.


I agree phones have gotten pretty expensive, at the same time I use that device more than anything else. Its used for maps in the car, music via spotify, recording biking routes/workouts, taking notes, high quality pictures and video, email, on the spot research or how-to videos, and much more. Its really a one stop device. It is a huge expense but just like a vehicle if its something you use all the time it may as well be a decent one. I usually wait for the flagship model to drop in price, I think last year my Note 8 was about $600.

Think about what a decent digital camera (not even DSLR) cost not too long ago... These new phones blow them away in most cases and its just a built in feature.


Wrong on many fronts.
1. Never has there been a time in the last 20 years where quality phones capable of doing everything most people will ever need, some with better battery life then any phone, can all be bought for around $200 and less.

2. A camera with a tiny sensor such as in a cell phone can not come close to the quality of a camera with a large sensor such as in a DSLR.

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