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Re: BG MOA [Re: Grambo] #5207457 09/08/19 02:10 AM
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FWIW:

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March 7, 2019
WICHITA, Kan. – New BG Advanced Formula MOA® has been upgraded from BG Extended Life MOA®. The new chemistry now meets API SN Plus standards and is specially formulated to protect turbocharged gasoline direct injection engines from Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI).

BG Advanced Formula MOA® also protects vehicles with downsized, boosted engines, which have hotter combustion temperatures, higher cylinder pressures, less piston ring tension and tighter tolerances than ever. This unstable environment is conducive to deposit formation and buildup.

Even high quality synthetic oils will degrade eventually. Unless the oil is fortified with enhanced protection against high heat, premature and hard-to-remove deposits will form on many engine components.

BG Advanced Formula MOA® is formulated with 100 percent synthetic chemistry. When added to engine oil, it protects engine components and fortifies all brands of engine oil for today’s extended oil drain intervals.

LSPI safe
Keeps piston rings from sticking
Reduces wear
Stabilizes oil viscosity
Prevents sludge and varnish
Prevents increased exhaust emissions
Ensures reliability of critical engine components
Prevents excessive oil consumption
Extends engine life
Meets API SN Plus standards
Backed by the Lifetime BG Protection Plan® for up to $6,000
Automotive experts nationwide chose BG MOA® 5 to 1 over the nearest aftermarket competitor.* Find a BG shop near you and ask for BG Advanced Formula MOA® at your next oil change.


https://www.bgprod.com/blog/bg-advanced-formula-moa-is-now-lspi-safe/

IMO, BG is the most legitimate of the snake oil companies.


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Re: BG MOA [Re: Grambo] #5207576 09/08/19 09:08 AM
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In the past all Acura dealers included BG MOA with an oil/filter change. I don't know if that is still practiced.

Re: BG MOA [Re: RTexasF] #5207647 09/08/19 11:20 AM
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Yet all these dealers that offer these services are going against the manufacturers recommendation that additives not be used. These are huge profit makers for the dealerships with spiffs for the mechanics in the form of tokens in the cans.
Some BG products work better than others, the only real difference I can tell in the new and improved MOA is the synthetic oil carrier instead of dino. Very high priced for what you get.

I try to use products that work to address specific issues not just tossing products in because of some advertising claims. Legit issues like sticking rings and lifters, rear main leaks on older cars that would be cost prohibitive to repair and so on deserve a Hail Mary pass before an expensive tear down but that's about it otherwise modern engine oils are doing everything needed to keep the engine in good shape if maintained regularly.


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Re: BG MOA [Re: Grambo] #5207940 09/08/19 06:51 PM
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i live in Wichita, KS. home of BG. the mechanics i know say nothing but good about BG.

Re: BG MOA [Re: red7404] #5207974 09/08/19 07:25 PM
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Sure they do wouldn't you if everything you peddled and used had a token in it you could redeem? Some of their product are not bad but all are dramatically over priced.
I wait for someone to explain why manufacturers dealerships are peddling this stuff when the company they represent specifically states in the owners manuals that additives should not be used.

It certainly doesn't say non except the sometimes multi hundred dollar BG services offered by some of our dealerships. On top of that when they do recommend something it is with products with their own branding eg Toyota, Chrysler, Subaru, GM, etc top engine cleaner, coolant, trans fluids, engine oils and engine cooling system flushes.
They will stand behind the warranty if their branded products are used and something goes afoul.


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Re: BG MOA [Re: Grambo] #5208043 09/08/19 09:19 PM
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I just think for $13, $16 or more for an oil additive at each change...why wouldn't I just spend that money on a higher quality finished lube? For $25 I could just run Edge EP or M1 EP for only 6k mile oci's and still come out ahead.

From the way some of these additive makers describe their product, makes me believe I could add it to a grp1 and run it 10k miles!😂

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That is a fact and well said!


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Re: BG MOA [Re: Grambo] #5215222 09/17/19 12:28 PM
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I prefer to go with Lubegard Bio for engine oil.


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