Is Shell/Pennzoil Platinum the only Natural Gas based oil?
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Be aware, not every Shell helix ultra is made from gas (GTL) only ones that have sticker ""Pure plus technology".
For example my oil Shell Helix Ultra Professional AF (ACEA A5/B5, Ford 913D) is not pure plus (only have "Active cleansing technology" sticker) is ordinary HC oil. So look for sticker with piston with Pure plus on it!
For example my oil Shell Helix Ultra Professional AF (ACEA A5/B5, Ford 913D) is not pure plus (only have "Active cleansing technology" sticker) is ordinary HC oil. So look for sticker with piston with Pure plus on it!
That leads to the question, by volume how much of the oil is GTL. I think people make the assumption that it is 100% GTL, less add pack. But these big corporate oil companies are pretty crafty in their advertisements so I wouldn't be surprised by any proprortion.
Originally Posted by sloinker
That leads to the question, by volume how much of the oil is GTL. I think people make the assumption that it is 100% GTL, less add pack. But these big corporate oil companies are pretty crafty in their advertisements so I wouldn't be surprised by any proprortion.
Yes, and they change/tweak the formula from time to time making it difficult to keep track. Not all changes are for the better either.
That leads to the question, by volume how much of the oil is GTL. I think people make the assumption that it is 100% GTL, less add pack. But these big corporate oil companies are pretty crafty in their advertisements so I wouldn't be surprised by any proprortion.
Yes, and they change/tweak the formula from time to time making it difficult to keep track. Not all changes are for the better either.
Originally Posted by ZZman
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
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Not as one of a kind as some think … other majors and smaller companies have patents and know the process … Shell had to commit big in the Persian Gulf region whereas XOM remains all LNG heading to Asia etc …
Here is a lesser known producer:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasol
Here is a lesser known producer:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasol
No but each PCMO is blend of different base oils. There is no such thing as a magic bullet.
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by ZZman
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
I thought XOM abandoned GTL for now due to costs and uses a blend of crude derived Grp3 and 4??
I'm not aware of any company aside from Shell, making pcmo stock from NG... and there probably won't be so long as the price of crude is well below $100 (currently abt $55/brl)... Monetizing NG is very expensive.
Originally Posted by ZZman
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
I thought XOM abandoned GTL for now due to costs and uses a blend of crude derived Grp3 and 4??
I'm not aware of any company aside from Shell, making pcmo stock from NG... and there probably won't be so long as the price of crude is well below $100 (currently abt $55/brl)... Monetizing NG is very expensive.
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by ZZman
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
I thought XOM abandoned GTL for now due to costs and uses a blend of crude derived Grp3 and 4??
I'm not aware of any company aside from Shell, making pcmo stock from NG... and there probably won't be so long as the price of crude is well below $100 (currently abt $55/brl)... Monetizing NG is very expensive.
Good point. Think exxonmobil is moving from gtl to group 2 in near future
https://www.hydrocarbonprocessing.c...p-ii-base-stocks-from-rotterdam-refinery
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by ZZman
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
I thought XOM abandoned GTL for now due to costs and uses a blend of crude derived Grp3 and 4??
I'm not aware of any company aside from Shell, making pcmo stock from NG... and there probably won't be so long as the price of crude is well below $100 (currently abt $55/brl)... Monetizing NG is very expensive.
Good point. Think exxonmobil is moving from gtl to group 2 in near future
https://www.hydrocarbonprocessing.c...p-ii-base-stocks-from-rotterdam-refinery
Maybe this one
NAPA PROFORMER 5W30 SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL is a superior quality synthetic motor oil specially formulated from 100% pure virgin base oil and high performance additives
https://www.napacanada.com/en/p/PFQPF5W30SY5L?searchCategory=700.7011&searchIndex=Prod
NAPA PROFORMER 5W30 SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL is a superior quality synthetic motor oil specially formulated from 100% pure virgin base oil and high performance additives
https://www.napacanada.com/en/p/PFQPF5W30SY5L?searchCategory=700.7011&searchIndex=Prod
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by ZZman
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
I thought XOM abandoned GTL for now due to costs and uses a blend of crude derived Grp3 and 4??
I'm not aware of any company aside from Shell, making pcmo stock from NG... and there probably won't be so long as the price of crude is well below $100 (currently abt $55/brl)... Monetizing NG is very expensive.
Good point. Think exxonmobil is moving from gtl to group 2 in near future
https://www.hydrocarbonprocessing.c...p-ii-base-stocks-from-rotterdam-refinery
Possible. The refining process (hydroprocessing) by some companies like Chevron are producing grp2+ base oils with VI's, volatility numbers and purity approaching grp3.
Chevron's Grp2+
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by Bjornviken
Originally Posted by ZZman
Is Shell and Pennzoil Platinum the only manufacturer and oil brand using base oil made from natural gas or are their others?
some Mobil1 oils uses gtl.
I thought XOM abandoned GTL for now due to costs and uses a blend of crude derived Grp3 and 4??
I'm not aware of any company aside from Shell, making pcmo stock from NG... and there probably won't be so long as the price of crude is well below $100 (currently abt $55/brl)... Monetizing NG is very expensive.
Good point. Think exxonmobil is moving from gtl to group 2 in near future
https://www.hydrocarbonprocessing.c...p-ii-base-stocks-from-rotterdam-refinery
Possible. The refining process (hydroprocessing) by some companies like Chevron are producing grp2+ base oils with VI's, volatility numbers and purity approaching grp3.
Chevron's Grp2+
Originally Posted by anjan42
Maybe this one
NAPA PROFORMER 5W30 SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL is a superior quality synthetic motor oil specially formulated from 100% pure virgin base oil and high performance additives
https://www.napacanada.com/en/p/PFQPF5W30SY5L?searchCategory=700.7011&searchIndex=Prod
Possible but if I had to guess I'd say no. The product description says it's made from a "from 100% virgin base oil", so to me that reads like it's made/refined from crude??..dunno
If I recall correctly (read: don't quote me on this) only Sasol, Shell and Chevron have operations capable of producing a pcmo from F/T GTL tech. (Sasol licensed the tech to Chevron for use at it's joint operation in Nigeria)..but I think Chevron's Nigerian ops is only producing no sulfur diesel syn fuel right now.
Maybe this one
NAPA PROFORMER 5W30 SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL is a superior quality synthetic motor oil specially formulated from 100% pure virgin base oil and high performance additives
https://www.napacanada.com/en/p/PFQPF5W30SY5L?searchCategory=700.7011&searchIndex=Prod
Possible but if I had to guess I'd say no. The product description says it's made from a "from 100% virgin base oil", so to me that reads like it's made/refined from crude??..dunno
If I recall correctly (read: don't quote me on this) only Sasol, Shell and Chevron have operations capable of producing a pcmo from F/T GTL tech. (Sasol licensed the tech to Chevron for use at it's joint operation in Nigeria)..but I think Chevron's Nigerian ops is only producing no sulfur diesel syn fuel right now.
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