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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: 2strokeNorthstar] #5199720 08/29/19 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 2strokeNorthstar
Commuting in a truck is miserable. Gas mileage stinks, changing lanes, parking, storage while parked is all more difficult. I don’t want to make the drive any more miserable than it is.



All depends on where you commute....an hour in LA vs an hour on a two lane in BFE are worlds apart.


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: supton] #5199722 08/29/19 10:26 AM
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I have commuted in a 1/2 ton for more than a decade. It is more expensive because of fuel, but since I want to have a truck for helping looking after my property and to carrying out personal hobbies, it's worth the cost to me. I have thought about having another commuter car and just saving the truck for when I need it, but the cost savings are minimal. For me, it's not worth the hassle of having an extra vehicle to maintain (we currently have two daily driver's and two hobby cars). I am tall, and I find the high seating position and the good head and leg room of a truck to be more comfortable than most cars. The ride is a bit more primitive, but it's well suited for my rough rural roads I commute on. While maybe a minivan or SUV with a trailer would work in place of a truck, quite frankly, I just like the way trucks drives. The higher seating position isn't really a plus or minus for me. I can see fine in driving a Corvette or a truck.

So for me a truck has a practical side, but I also admit some of it is also my personal preference to drive what I like. As for fuel mileage, I find reducing your commuting speeds makes a big difference in fuel mileage over the long term, while there is often minimal to no impact on your commute time. My current truck is going on 12 years old, but it's lifetime fuel average (including winter) is 16.9 MPG (US). I can touch 20 MPG on the highway, if I keep the speed to about 70 MPH.


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I . It's the worst vehicle in snow I've ever had--but at the same time, once I flip it into 4WD it'll go through a good amount of snow (although that primitive 4WD is a drawback).



That's surprising. I have a Tundra like yours (although it's a 5.7L) and it's a tank in the snow. It runs circles around my wife's Subaru (with Michelin Winter tires), especially in really bad road conditions. I live on a poorly maintained hilly rural road and typically leave work before the roads are plowed. My Tundra has been unstoppable even in the absolute worst winter conditions. The area I live in has very harsh winters, lots of snow and cold, but the majority of the winter I can easily run 2WD. Only when the roads get rough do I need 4WD. MInd you, I run four winter tires, but even with the all seasons I have been caught in the snow, and it's been good.

I personally like the "primitive 4WD" in the snow, as it distributes power 50:50 making it a well balanced vehicle in the snow. My wife's Subaru on the other hand has way too much front bias and causing understeer.

Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Railrust] #5199748 08/29/19 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Railrust
I owned a Lexus LS 460 before this...great car...but when you're replacing the entire front suspension every two years and it's costing you thousands?? Kind of gets old.

What road obstacles were you attempting to clear with your Lexus that caused that much damage?!
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My Lexus is still on it's original suspension with no rattles, or slop whatsoever

But yes, I kind of wish we chose an SUV over the Lexus.
Something with 2wd, yet luxury like the Lexus.
Does such a vehicle exist?


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Oldswagon] #5199756 08/29/19 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JLTD
Originally Posted by 2strokeNorthstar
Commuting in a truck is miserable. Gas mileage stinks, changing lanes, parking, storage while parked is all more difficult. I don’t want to make the drive any more miserable than it is.



All depends on where you commute....an hour in LA vs an hour on a two lane in BFE are worlds apart.

As someone who lives in BFE I take offense! LOL My trip of 54 miles to work takes, according to Android, 54-55 minutes. I can think of only two traffic lights that are in a 20 mile radius of where I live...

Originally Posted by Oldswagon


That's surprising. I have a Tundra like yours (although it's a 5.7L) and it's a tank in the snow. It runs circles around my wife's Subaru (with Michelin Winter tires), especially in really bad road conditions. I live on a poorly maintained hilly rural road and typically leave work before the roads are plowed. My Tundra has been unstoppable even in the absolute worst winter conditions. The area I live in has very harsh winters, lots of snow and cold, but the majority of the winter I can easily run 2WD. Only when the roads get rough do I need 4WD. MInd you, I run four winter tires, but even with the all seasons I have been caught in the snow, and it's been good.

I personally like the "primitive 4WD" in the snow, as it distributes power 50:50 making it a well balanced vehicle in the snow. My wife's Subaru on the other hand has way too much front bias and causing understeer.

I run in 2HI as long as I can. I know myself. In 4HI I can't feel road conditions very well, but in 2HI, if I feel TC kick in, or the tires spin, I know to slow down. In 4HI i'd be one of those people flying down the road (well I usually am, but only worse).

My driveway usually requires lock to lock turning, so driveline binding is a constant nuisance. This summer I parked a trailer in a friends yard; he said to use 4WD in the yard. So I did. Lock to lock turning on dry grass and I kept having to goose the throttle so spin a tire while moving around. Even on snow the tires get good bite; roll 4 feet, come to stop, gun the engine... repeat.

But yeah, in 4HI it has quite a bit of traction, not lacking there. Well until it gets high ended, get some packing snow and it's gave over. Thankfully that is not very often.


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Railrust] #5199765 08/29/19 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Railrust

Anyone else commute in a truck? Or make the switch?


Went from an IS250 ( 25-35mpg) to my 15-23mpg, and while no surprise, not exactly a something I'm enjoying (although the range per fill up is a sweet 500+ mi). However, it is worth the extra couple bucks at the pump to have the utility, visibility and cleanliness (dog is finally out of the pass compartment). I imagine my repair bills will eat me alive, as the Lexus had 0 [cost] problems, and this is a CryCo product.
I do have to say the 8' box crew cab length is a pita, but a blessing in disguise, forcing me to walk longer distances. And I can't stand the AS69RC, feels like a tranny with 400k on in, but I hear it butters out when you hook up, which I haven't yet.
With maintenance going up about 3x, fuel cost 2x, and the ability to park in the same neighborhood as the destination under constant threat, won't even get into reliability, I view it as an expense I choose to pay for the luxury of a truck. Because at the end of the day, every single thing outside of food, water and shelter, is a luxury, and every decision comes with a consequence.

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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Railrust] #5199795 08/29/19 12:05 PM
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I daily drive in an F150 that I bought new in 2016. Wonderful to drive, mpg's around 22, great family vehicle and tows anything I need it to... what's not to love?

Full disclosure, parking can be an issue.


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Railrust] #5199801 08/29/19 12:19 PM
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My old commute was out of the city and all highway and I really miss my old 99 7.3 power stroke 4x4 with the 6 speed manual for that, the visibility and ability to tackle any weather was the best, so was the over the road comfort and safety, out here in the Seattle area where everyone is on drugs or DUI having something substantial is a good thing, plus it’s deer country.

We use the RX now with the baby, but my next vehicle will be a truck, probably an F150 v8 crew cab so we can continue to take lots of road trips down Lake Tahoe and SoCal with the little guy and all our stuff, the rx just doesn’t have quite enough room for all that baby stuff. But as a DD, they’re great IMO


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: JLTD] #5199802 08/29/19 12:20 PM
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True. I consider a “commute” sitting in traffic on a freeway. It must be a CA thing. Never thought of a long drive on open roads as a commute.


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: 2strokeNorthstar] #5199805 08/29/19 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 2strokeNorthstar
True. I consider a “commute” sitting in traffic on a freeway. It must be a CA thing. Never thought of a long drive on open roads as a commute.

Same up here in Seattle, we’re also blessed with the 5a-9p bumper to bumper traffic BS, but an optioned out luxotruck does great in that too


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Railrust] #5199811 08/29/19 12:34 PM
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The ride and comfort of a truck can not be replicated IMO by a car.


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Railrust] #5199819 08/29/19 12:46 PM
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I have been commuting in my 99 jeep grand Cherokee for the last 5 years. About 50 miles a day. I just bought the Escape to use instead.


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Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Railrust] #5199834 08/29/19 01:07 PM
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if it's not a Snap-On toolbox, you are nobody, on welfare or something.. if it's not a truck you drive, you are not a guy around here.


Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: JEL01] #5199907 08/29/19 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JEL01
Originally Posted by 2strokeNorthstar
True. I consider a “commute” sitting in traffic on a freeway. It must be a CA thing. Never thought of a long drive on open roads as a commute.

Same up here in Seattle, we’re also blessed with the 5a-9p bumper to bumper traffic BS, but an optioned out luxotruck does great in that too


I have no idea how the SeaTac region gets such bad traffic. I was driving around at 4-5AM and there were already ramps backed up with hundreds of meters of cars still waiting on the highway.

Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Lolvoguy] #5199931 08/29/19 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Originally Posted by Railrust
I owned a Lexus LS 460 before this...great car...but when you're replacing the entire front suspension every two years and it's costing you thousands?? Kind of gets old.

What road obstacles were you attempting to clear with your Lexus that caused that much damage?!
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My Lexus is still on it's original suspension with no rattles, or slop whatsoever

But yes, I kind of wish we chose an SUV over the Lexus.
Something with 2wd, yet luxury like the Lexus.
Does such a vehicle exist?


The LS460 has 8 control arms up front in their multi link suspension system - generally the control arm failure starts at 80,000 miles. A Lexus's genuine control arm is $400 a piece...x 8 = $3,200 bucks. So most people go aftermarket and spend $800-$1,20, but those arms won't make it 80,000 miles...more like 50,000 miles. I was able to do the replacements myself (twice), otherwise I'd be looking at close to $10,000 parts and labor to do it twice at the dealer. It's really not that big of a deal (skill wise) to repce them, but even aftermarket it's still costly and time consuming.

And tire wear on those cars was horrendous!! Awful. You could never ever get a set of tires to last more than 25,000 miles. So I had to buy new tires every single year.

But still I loved that car...great performance, great technology inside, comfort, room, looks. Loved it. But to put 25,000-30,000 miles a year on it became a little more expensive than I was hoping for. I started burning some oil once it got over 150,000 miles...that and the brake actuator was beginning to fail ($3,000 part). So I traded it in, I figure when things start failing on the truck, at least parts will be reasonably priced (I hope).

Re: Commuting in a truck (a year later). [Re: Tdog02] #5199932 08/29/19 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tdog02
I daily drive in an F150 that I bought new in 2016. Wonderful to drive, mpg's around 22, great family vehicle and tows anything I need it to... what's not to love?

Full disclosure, parking can be an issue.


Yeah I've driven the F150 ecoboost...very nice riding truck.

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