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Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? #5178846 08/04/19 12:39 PM
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So since the fluid is sucked first through the transmissions internal filter then passed through the cover, which is where a remote filter would be mounted. What's the point of it? Seems the fluid would be filtered before it gets filtered

I may or may not look into installing one. Want to see the best life out of my components but I also don't want to ibtroduxt more failure points and throw away money, know what I mean?


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5178865 08/04/19 01:13 PM
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Does the remote filter replace the one in the pan? If so, fluid and filter changes are much quicker and easier with a spin on remote filter.

Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5178907 08/04/19 02:11 PM
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usually the in pan filter is just a rock-catcher, spin on filters catch much more.


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5178949 08/04/19 03:45 PM
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The details are in the specifications. Many transmission filters with polyester media are 160++ micron rated. In other words, near zero restriction to flow at any temperature.

By comparison, external filters can be 10 micron rated or less, with very high efficiency.

And of course, there are always the submicron bypass type filters.


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5179103 08/04/19 07:35 PM
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So then the question becomes, what is the appropriate way to size a filter at a given micron rating? Or how would one determine the flow rate through the cooler?


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5179470 08/05/19 09:07 AM
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Researching further, it seems the most appropriate would be to install a rather low micron rated filter on a housing that has its own internal bypass valve.

Problem is, my keywording is terrible and I'm having difficulties finding such a housing. Does anyone have any resources? Trying to find one in the 5 to 10 psi range


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5181162 08/07/19 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Researching further, it seems the most appropriate would be to install a rather low micron rated filter on a housing that has its own internal bypass valve.
Does anyone have any resources? Trying to find one in the 5 to 10 psi range


I use a filter base/housing for a Log Splitter hydraulic system..... it's EXTREMELY generic - - - about as common as the good 'ol FL-1A or PH8A

A Baldwin BT839-10 (10 micron) is on there (the RED one) - it'll last the life of the vehicle!

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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: Rand] #5184584 08/11/19 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rand
usually the in pan filter is just a rock-catcher, spin on filters catch much more.



And with Rock catchers the transmission usually fails I don't know after the automobile is junked.


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5199392 08/28/19 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
So then the question becomes, what is the appropriate way to size a filter at a given micron rating? Or how would one determine the flow rate through the cooler?

Virtually all spin-on filters have a bypass valve, as does the Magnefine. This eliminates the danger of clogging. You determine the flow rate through the cooler circuit by running a hose into a
bucket and timing the flow with the engine running. For instance, the flow rate for a Jeep AW4 cooler circuit is 3/4 quart per minute. The flow rates for spin-ons and Magnefines are many times
greater than what's needed in transmissions.


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5275425 11/23/19 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowDrifter
Researching further, it seems the most appropriate would be to install a rather low micron rated filter on a housing that has its own internal bypass valve.

Problem is, my keywording is terrible and I'm having difficulties finding such a housing. Does anyone have any resources? Trying to find one in the 5 to 10 psi range


The Donaldson Hydraulic Catalog has all information you want.

https://www.donaldson.com/content/d...G/Hydraulic-Filtration-Product-Guide.pdf

Take a look at the SP15 series. The mounts and filters use a 1"-12 thread that is very common (like Linctex mentioned). This style of mount/filter is used on a lot of medium duty truck applications for an external transmission filter.

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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5276970 11/25/19 10:38 AM
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Many transmissions today do not have a user serviceable pan and filter. Filter is only replaceable by splitting the entire transmission case apart. So a separate filter could be useful to extend the life of the deeply buried internal filter. Vehicle manufacturers consider such transmissions as good for the life of the car, and some you cant work on at all without taking it all apart.

They even consider fluid good for the life of the vehicle, so make it tough to change or add any.

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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: SnowDrifter] #5280892 11/30/19 06:56 AM
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I dont see why anyone needs more than a pan filter unless your doing some endurance [censored] or have a tranny burning parts up


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Originally Posted by Excel
I dont see why anyone needs more than a pan filter unless your doing some endurance [censored] or have a tranny burning parts up


How about if you're putting 1000ft.lbs. of torque through the input shaft? Towing cross country with a trailer? Trying to keep a $60-70,000 dollar vehicle maintained.


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Re: Educate me: what's the point of a remote filter? [Re: OLEJOE] #5291154 12/11/19 07:52 AM
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Not needed nor has filter proven to provide additional transmission life.

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