Motul 913D

[Alfredo]

Hello

Long time no posting. I have been reading the forum for quite a while. I have a clue about oils but that´s it.

Rig is a LR Defender with a Ford 2.4TDCi calling for a specific WSS-M2C913D (or A-B-C) thin oil for long intervals. I have a jug of 5 liters Motul 913C and I cannot get more of it to complete the 7 liters required.

What kind of oil can mix with if at all?

Thanks

 

[Kamele0N]

https://www.oilspecifications.org/ford.php

Its 2007-2011 engine...so its EURO4 norm......does it have DPF catalyst in version for Chile?

IF NO....use any Acea A3/B4...MB 229.5 oil

IF YES.....use mid/low saps oils.....depending on what you can get there.....ACEA C3/C4....vw 504/507

These are the best norms you can choose

 

[Polyalphaolefin]

Ford 913C is closest to ACEA A5B5 specs, not A3B4 (ford 913 is full saps specs, API SL). Use any A5B5, motul EcoNERGY (or Specific 913) is mixable with group 3 oils, but closest spec is ACEA A5B5 (and API SL). (I am using MOTUL EcoNergy 5w30 with Ford 913D specs) Why not buy another Motul Eco Nergy 5w30 jug?

 

[SR5]

Ford 913-D is based on ACEA A5/B5 then Ford add a few other requirements
- It needs to be a 5W30 oil
- at the thin end of the viscosity grade for better fuel economy
- have an increased TBN (from min 8 to min 10) for a longer oil change interval
- it needs to have extra ZDDP (about 1000 ppm zinc) for extra wear protection
- pass some extra seal compatibility tests

The extra ZDDP (for cam chain wear I believe) means the oil is API SL rather than SN.

If you can't get a 913-D oil you have two options, first just get a good quality 5W30 A5/B5 oil, or second get a good quality 0W40 (or 0W30 or 5W40) that is A3/B4 and some OEM like MB 229.5, BMW LL-01 or Porsche A40 as these also most likely have a TBN of 10 and 1000 ppm zinc.

Two options are follow the viscosity (5W30 A5/B5) or follow the add pack (0W40 A3/B4). Can't do both without the rare 913-D oil. I would go the 0W40 with OEMs myself.

 

[Alfredo]

Cheers guys. I will follow recomendations. Since a while it is almost impossibe to get motul oils. Otherwise I would go for the Eco-energy stuff.

It does have a catalyst but no dpf on such an old model, just Euro 4.

 

[Kamele0N]

Just dont bother with A5/B5....
Defender is intended for "offroad" use...do you need fuel economy there?

A3/B4 + MB 229.5 is all you need then... xW40 has prety enough ZDDP...

 

[Alfredo]

I fact I do have a couple of 1 qt M1 0W-40 around.

I was tempted to ask the question. Would it be wise just to use M1 0W40 ? I am not sure this ford duratorq TDCi engines are designed in a way it is not recommended to use something heavier than 2.9 cst or is it a "green" matter of fuel economy (or both)