Recent Topics
Aircraft Tempest Spin-EZ AA-48108-2
by Capt - 09/19/19 11:22 PM
Emission Readiness monitors
by bowlofturtle - 09/19/19 10:12 PM
Thoughts on the GM strike?
by Vern_in_IL - 09/19/19 09:37 PM
tropical storm imelda blows up everynight?
by motor_oil_madman - 09/19/19 09:12 PM
2017 Corvette / Mobil 1 ESP 0w40 / 5.2k mi
by dparm - 09/19/19 08:57 PM
2019 Lexus UX 250h
by Direct_Rejection - 09/19/19 08:56 PM
Gas theft
by tahoe_hybrid - 09/19/19 08:04 PM
Aisin 09G transmission fluid?
by sloinker - 09/19/19 07:44 PM
Oil for 2005 BMW X3
by Nyquist - 09/19/19 07:34 PM
Golden Eagles Take Down Deer and Wolves
by buster - 09/19/19 07:31 PM
P21S Windshield Washer Booster
by mclasser - 09/19/19 06:30 PM
Why warm up oil before a UOA sample is taken?
by paulri - 09/19/19 06:21 PM
Selling the 97 Camry V6 again
by PandaBear - 09/19/19 05:15 PM
FRAM Orange Cans
by KevGuy - 09/19/19 05:13 PM
Colt Ceases Civilian AR-15 Production
by billt460 - 09/19/19 04:50 PM
Amsoil “synthetic technology”
by spiderbypass - 09/19/19 03:15 PM
Newest Members
Srfridd, V1313, Ecan89, ProBest, Zolton
69333 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
22 registered members (dave63, ctechbob, Donald1953, Char Baby, chemman, CATERHAM, 1 invisible), 615 guests, and 23 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics294,801
Posts5,066,904
Members69,333
Most Online3,532
Jul 30th, 2019
Donate to BITOG
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma #5193243 08/21/19 07:14 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 138
M
madibob Offline OP
OP Offline
M
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 138
My 2002 4x4 Tacoma needs new calipers as they are currently starting to stick and drag on the rotors (front wheels don't spin freely). I know there are kits to rebuild them, but with 235K miles and rust from Minnesota winters, I'm afraid that might not be worth it. The Toyota OEM calipers are pushing $300 each. Rockauto has a few but unsure which brand would be best....I don't mind paying for quality. I read NAPA has rebuilt OEM calipers, but I haven't had the best of luck with NAPA parts.

Any recommendations?


2015 Porsche Boxster S
2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L 4X4
2000 Ford F350 7.3L 4X4
Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193247 08/21/19 07:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 25
5
50jeffrey Offline
Offline
5
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 25
Uh, all rebuilds are from OEM cores.

Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193249 08/21/19 07:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,659
S
SatinSilver Offline
Offline
S
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,659
Get the Raybestos Opti-cal calipers. They are new, not rebuilt and no core charge.

Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: SatinSilver] #5193259 08/21/19 07:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 138
M
madibob Offline OP
OP Offline
M
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 138
Originally Posted by SatinSilver
Get the Raybestos Opti-cal calipers. They are new, not rebuilt and no core charge.

Are these now called the ELEMENT3 calipers?

https://www.brakepartsinc.com/raybestos/products/calipers/element3-calipers.html


2015 Porsche Boxster S
2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L 4X4
2000 Ford F350 7.3L 4X4
Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: 50jeffrey] #5193261 08/21/19 07:30 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,559
Y
Y_K Offline
Offline
Y
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,559
Originally Posted by 50jeffrey
Uh, all rebuilds are from OEM cores.


That's a marketing claim we take on face value too often. In my experience with several of those for Land Cruisers, they were cheap castings from a Chicom molds knock-offs. one was not even fitting right. Tried a few times: correct casting numbers and all that, but you could see a horrible metallurgy from a mile. Some boots were dislocated, some were not polished, etc. Various 'brands', including the ones that swear they use OE cores.

Just a warning. NAPA Eclipse line was OK. Or a rebuild from a dealer is a second best choice aside from a new one.

Deal locally only. I made a mistake ordering from Rock once. Was stuck with a wrong part and it took a week of emailing back and forth with pictures and measurements to prove that the part was defective. The same happened once with a defective/wrong rotor: correct part number with a wrong hat height dimensions. One out of four was wrong and it had scuff marks from a previous customer also trying to fit the wrong part on his vehicle.


Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193264 08/21/19 07:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,659
S
SatinSilver Offline
Offline
S
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 11,659
Originally Posted by madibob
Originally Posted by SatinSilver
Get the Raybestos Opti-cal calipers. They are new, not rebuilt and no core charge.

Are these now called the ELEMENT3 calipers?

https://www.brakepartsinc.com/raybestos/products/calipers/element3-calipers.html


Yes, that's them. They must have changed the name recently. Rockauto carries them for the 05 Matrix but I didn't see them for the 02 Tacoma. But I had to guess on the trim level.

Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193277 08/21/19 07:47 PM
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 580
S
Sam_Julier Offline
Offline
S
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 580
I would have them restored at either Goldline Brakes or PMB Performance. I have had excellence service and product from both places.

You might also consider buying a set of calipers from a Toyota dismanteler in a dry/no salt part of the country and having them shipped to Goldline or PMB. This is what I did for the Volvo 240 calipers I had restored at Goldline.


2013 Toyota Avalon Hybrid PPHM 0W20, 70k
1993 Volvo 245 T5 10W30, 157k
1993 Volvo 244 T5 10W30, 169k

Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193281 08/21/19 07:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,067
0
02SE Offline
Offline
0
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,067
Quite a few people with first gen Tacoma's and 3rd gen 4Runner's, like to do the 1st gen Tundra brake mod. Which consists of either the 199 mm rotors and calipers, or the more popular 231 mm rotors and calipers from a 1st gen Tundra, swapped onto their Tacoma or 4Runner.

If you have 15" wheels you'd have to upgrade to at least 16's to fit the larger rotors and calipers, and in some cases 17" wheels.

Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: Sam_Julier] #5193297 08/21/19 08:09 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,559
Y
Y_K Offline
Offline
Y
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,559
Originally Posted by Sam_Julier
I would have them restored at either Goldline Brakes or PMB Performance. I have had excellence service and product from both places.

You might also consider buying a set of calipers from a Toyota dismanteler in a dry/no salt part of the country and having them shipped to Goldline or PMB. This is what I did for the Volvo 240 calipers I had restored at Goldline.


yes, Goldline are semi-local to me and they make the rebuilt calipers better than new ones


Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193299 08/21/19 08:13 PM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 21,094
The Critic Offline
Offline
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 21,094
New calipers from the dealer, not the Chinese ones.

All of the rebuilt ones are a crapshoot.

Last edited by The Critic; 08/21/19 08:13 PM.

2011 Toyota Prius 1.8L - 197K - Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20
2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 138K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193339 08/21/19 08:40 PM
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 46
N
NASTI Offline
Offline
N
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 46
I've had good luck with Cardone Ultra Premium rebuilt calipers and the Raybestos ELEMENT3 new calipers on family and friend vehicles. Unlike most store brand calipers, they are both coated to prevent weather corrosion and function well.


2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI || Motul X-Cess 5w40 & WIX 57712
2008 Lexus RX350 || M1 5w30 & Toyota 04152-YZZA1
Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193546 08/22/19 05:15 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,152
J
joegreen Offline
Offline
J
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,152
I think the rebuilt ones are a rebuild of whatever core gets returned. If an oem gets returned it's an oem rebuild if a Chinese caliper gets returned they rebuild the Chinese caliper.


1978 Chevrolet k20
Engine: Delo 10w30xle
Transmission: Castrol transmax dex/merc

1984 Mercedes-Benz 300 turbo diesel
Engine: Delo 400 15w40le
Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193581 08/22/19 06:39 AM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 22,803
D
Donald Offline
Offline
D
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 22,803
The postage for returning a core can be hefty. For an old Suburban it was more than the core was worth.

Rebuilding a caliper is not like rebuilding an engine. Its pretty straight forward. New seal & piston, after its cleaned & honed.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193856 08/22/19 12:38 PM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,207
Yah-Tah-Hey Offline
Offline
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,207
Find some later model Tacoma units that will work and rebuild them. There really isn't that much to a caliper.

Re: Caliper Recommendations for 2002 Tacoma [Re: madibob] #5193882 08/22/19 01:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,689
N
nthach Offline
Offline
N
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,689
If you can afford them, new from the dealer. All the reman ones are a crapshoot. Recently, I've gone through 2 calipers for a now-junked Mitsu and an ex-friend's Tahoe.

Otherwise, rebuild the OEM caliper.

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™