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Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 #5187422 08/14/19 09:29 PM
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I have a 2008 Landcruiser with the 5.7l V8 and 90k miles on it. SInce I've owned it, I have used TGMO 0W-20 oil at 8k OCI (did a blackstone analysis to establish OCI). But, I see the boxed Havoline PRO DS 0W-20 is literally half the price of TGMO. Should I be concerned about switching from TGMO to the PRO DS oil?

Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: tom in boise] #5187423 08/14/19 09:29 PM
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Nope, it will perform just the same.

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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: tom in boise] #5187451 08/14/19 10:08 PM
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Stick with the Tgmo. Check your dealer’s price. Mine sells it for 4.25/quart.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: tom in boise] #5187577 08/15/19 05:33 AM
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Also, check your local Dealers for "Specials" that are on sale from time to time. In my area, if one Dealer has a special sale on the TGMO, the others will match that price as long as they can verify the sale through the competitor's website.

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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: tom in boise] #5187581 08/15/19 05:40 AM
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Havoline pro DS is a fine oil. You will not have problems using it vs the TGMO. There is not magic in that oil.

The lowest price for a name brand oil is the walmart deal for Mobil 1 right now. $22 at walmart, $5 coupon for signing up for some silly hotwheels lottery. Then a $12/ 5qt jug rebate for up to 4 jugs.

That gets you M1 oil (good as any common oil on the market) for > $10 / 5qt jug.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: danez_yoda] #5188790 08/16/19 12:20 PM
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Nobody said it was magic. It’s made by Mobil for Toyota to their specs. It’s better than Mobil 1. Look at the additive package.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: PowerSurge] #5188832 08/16/19 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Nobody said it was magic. It’s made by Mobil for Toyota to their specs. It’s better than Mobil 1. Look at the additive package.

You're able to look at the values on a Blackstone VOA/UOA and conclusively determine that between those two oils one is better than another? I sure can't, that's really something.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: tom in boise] #5188848 08/16/19 01:47 PM
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6 quarts for $20 is hard to beat

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Absolutely. My vehicle TBN For TGMO 0w-20, 4.8. Mobil1 0w-20, 4.3. Have a nice day.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: PowerSurge] #5188885 08/16/19 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Absolutely. My vehicle TBN For TGMO 0w-20, 4.8. Mobil1 0w-20, 4.3. Have a nice day.




Hardly any difference at all.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: tom in boise] #5188895 08/16/19 02:39 PM
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I don’t know if it means anything as far as wear, but my 5.7 valvetrain was much quieter with TGMO vs other 0W-20 and 0W-30 oils. It was very noticeable throughout the OCI.

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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Absolutely. My vehicle TBN For TGMO 0w-20, 4.8. Mobil1 0w-20, 4.3. Have a nice day.

Ahh, OK. I thought you meant you knew it was actually better. Never mind.

You have a nice day too.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: tom in boise] #5188926 08/16/19 03:19 PM
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I've seen a lot of negative feedback for Havoline Pro DS specifically and it seems like some people are in love with TGMO.

Personally I picked up Mobil 1, received the $12 rebate, and got the $5 Walmart coupon from entering the Hot Wheels sweepstakes. $24 - $12 - $5 = $7 for a 5 quart jug of Mobil 1 is a deal no one is beating for the quality of the product you're receiving.


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: Ignatius] #5188969 08/16/19 04:08 PM
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Where have you seen all this negative feedback?


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Re: Havoline Pro DS vs TGMO 0W-20 [Re: PimTac] #5189056 08/16/19 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Where have you seen all this negative feedback?


+1 I haven’t seen any , my 4 runner is doing well with a sump full


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