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Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? #5187284 08/14/19 07:32 PM
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I noticed that all varieties of QS claim to have at least some seal conditioners to “help prevent and reduce leaks.” But the star chart on the Pennzoil only claims the high mileage helps this issues. I know the wording is different, “prevent and reduce leaks” vs “conditions older seals.” Still, I found it interesting that QSUD claims to help reduce leaks.

So, what you folks think? Could QS in general have boosted seal conditioners compared to PP varieties?

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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5187289 08/14/19 07:35 PM
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Yes it does but the Pennzoil protects horsepower like waayyy better

Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5187341 08/14/19 08:30 PM
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All oils have some conditioners. Think you're over examining ad copy.


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5187342 08/14/19 08:31 PM
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Yeah, nobody here can answer this.
But many will try...


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5187359 08/14/19 09:03 PM
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Who knows? It’s all marketing BS anyway.

Both are excellent oils.


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5187360 08/14/19 09:03 PM
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Seal conditioners are present in all PCMO'S to obtain certification.


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Jimmy_Russells] #5187364 08/14/19 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
Yes it does but the Pennzoil protects horsepower like waayyy better

Yeah but the QSUD has 3 checks More Performance. So you have another choice, keep your horsepower longer or get more.
LOL


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5187409 08/14/19 10:14 PM
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I think Pennzoil is either trying to market their HM oil, or they decided for liability reasons to say their normal product line doesn't condition older seals.

Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Starman2112] #5187598 08/15/19 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by csandste
Think you're over examining ad copy.


Originally Posted by Starman2112
It’s all marketing BS anyway.



Yep, the labels on oil jugs are pretty much meaningless


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: csandste] #5187627 08/15/19 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by csandste
All oils have some conditioners. Think you're over examining ad copy.


^ This.


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5187641 08/15/19 08:20 AM
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Than you have this label.
Well they both must be better than regular Mobil 1
The most it gets in any of there categories is 2 stars
Even there advanced only gets 3 stars in one category
grin

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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: tblt44] #5187647 08/15/19 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tblt44
Than you have this label.
Well they both must be better than regular Mobil 1
The most it gets in any of there categories is 2 stars
Even there advanced only gets 3 stars in one category
grin

That's because they have to save an all three star rating for the vastly more expensive AP!!!


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #5187664 08/15/19 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi

That's because they have to save an all three star rating for the vastly more expensive AP!!!


LOL.... I have 3 jugs of it from AutoZone's year-end $10 clearance last fall.

It doesn't act any differently than any other oil I have tried.


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Linctex] #5187695 08/15/19 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Linctex
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That's because they have to save an all three star rating for the vastly more expensive AP!!!

LOL.... I have 3 jugs of it from AutoZone's year-end $10 clearance last fall.
It doesn't act any differently than any other oil I have tried.

I run AP 5W30 once when it was the only oil in that grade with a d1G2 license that I could find on the shelf at WM...think I paid $40 or $50 for it but got a $10 WM gift card with it right away and also got a $12 rebate, so the overall cost wasn't too bad.
Nothing good or bad about my experience with that OCI, with the advent of d1G2 I was eager to use an oil I knew had been tested for LSPI mitigation.


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Re: Does Quaker State contain more seal conditioners than Pennzoil? [Re: Floyd1] #5188324 08/15/19 09:27 PM
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Alright I see all the sarcasm. I understand it’s just marketing and the stars/checks are nearly meaningless. I wasn’t reading it as some vastly major difference between the two. Perhaps I should I have worded the main post differently, apologies.

I understand most syns clean pretty well and contain conditioners.

All I was really getting at is I found it interesting that QSUD claims to help “reduce leaks” despite not being a high mileage oil. I just haven’t seen that with other synthetics. Maybe I just don’t pay attention enough, I dunno.

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