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Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster #5187131 08/14/19 04:17 PM
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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187134 08/14/19 04:18 PM
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I rented a Ford Focus hatchback and DCT transmission was terrible. I even posted a thread on BITOG about the car.

My rental car only had 3500 miles and trans was shuddering badly when accelerating from a complete stop.

Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187137 08/14/19 04:21 PM
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I had the distinct displeasure of riding in a Fiesta once that had that issue. Horrid little shoebox car.


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187151 08/14/19 04:38 PM
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I wrote about this a month ago. Our data is pretty [censored] of Ford's willingness to handle the transmission defects.

http://www.dashboard-light.com/why-...kWqPYQZK_1ENq5Dqj8WqQSyjBiMyiFrylg2d636g

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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187195 08/14/19 05:52 PM
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A dry clutch DCT is acceptable for a commercial heavy truck, but not refined enough for a pass car market accustomed to torque converter transmissions. In addition to that, it appears Ford has some specific issues with quality and variability of certain parts.

If you read the detail history, it is a classic example of a development program that was not making the timing target milestones and management said shoot the engineers and ship the product.

Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: nascarnation] #5187211 08/14/19 06:08 PM
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The 'executives' who rushed this DCT to market knowing it had problems should be forced to give back their bonuses....maybe even their salaries.....same thing with Boeing.....


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187291 08/14/19 07:36 PM
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This is one of the reasons I have soured on Ford after being long time Ford guy. You just don't know what you are getting.


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187331 08/14/19 08:16 PM
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Of course they'd go back to a real automatic torque converter after they stop selling them over here smirk2

All they had to do was replace the DCT with a torque converter automatic.

I also think the EPA should dock them 10 mpg as a penalty. This would not apply to the manual cars, of course.

Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: Mr Nice] #5187389 08/14/19 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Nice
I rented a Ford Focus hatchback and DCT transmission was terrible. I even posted a thread on BITOG about the car.

My rental car only had 3500 miles and trans was shuddering badly when accelerating from a complete stop.


I rented one as well. Kept thinking the whole time "who buys this?". Guess it takes a bit to show up.


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187444 08/14/19 10:58 PM
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Aren't the wet dual clutch syetems way more reliable than the dry dual clutch syetems ?


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187470 08/14/19 11:46 PM
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My wife and I bought a brand new 2015 Ford Focus Titanium with that DCT for her 1K miles per week driving to her job. 90% of her driving was highway driving. But still, the clutches on the thing chattered horribly starting a 40K miles. Then later, it seemed like it would miss gears on an upshift and end up in neutral. The car wouldn't over rev, but it just stalled out as if the throttle had closed. Clutch chatter is annoying as heck, but that "stalling" situation was dangerous!

We sold it at 3 years old and 70k miles, 2 years earlier than we had planned. Too bad for the car. With the exception of that transmission there was nothing at all wrong with that car. We liked it and it was perfect for our needs, except for that [censored] transmission.


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187529 08/15/19 02:02 AM
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Same crap, different package.


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: edyvw] #5187536 08/15/19 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by edyvw

Same crap, different package.

Ouch.. popcorn2 I'd take an AT or stick over both.


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Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: camryrolla] #5187547 08/15/19 05:02 AM
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What they did WAS wrong, up to 2016. For 2017 and newer, it has been fixed. The 2017 model trans has a great record so far. The old problems don't "continue" like the link says, This is actually fake news.

Re: Ford's Dual-Clutch Transmission Continues To Be A Disaster [Re: bbhero] #5187632 08/15/19 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bbhero
Aren't the wet dual clutch syetems way more reliable than the dry dual clutch syetems ?


Wet clutch allows more slip when taking off so they are much smoother. VW uses that in 90% of their automatics and have pretty much perfected it. The only downside is 40,000 mile fluid changes. Their cars with dry clutch have no fluid change requirements.

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