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Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? #5186685 08/14/19 07:24 AM
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I see Castrol shows their current offerings here

https://www.castrol.com/en_us/unite...uids/new-api-sn-plus-specifications.html

(I do not know if this is a completely current list)


And Pennzoil has something here:

https://www.pennzoil.com/en_ca/education/know-your-oil/what-you-need-to-know-about-api-sn-plus.html

but I know for sure it isnt current as there is no mention of say PP EURO 0W40 and it is available as a SN PLUS formulation.


Do you know if there is a more up to date list available on-line for even say Pennzoil for its SN PLUS oils?

Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: 21Rouge] #5186692 08/14/19 07:31 AM
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This is a great question....doesn't appear to be an SN+ list on the API site, although I can't say I poked around the site that much.

https://www.api.org/products-and-se...assifications/latest-oil-classifications

Very surprised to hear that PP Euro 0W40 is SN+ now, great info and thanks for sharing it!


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #5186699 08/14/19 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
This is a great question....doesn't appear to be an SN+ list on the API site, although I can't say I poked around the site that much.

Yeah there is, it is under Advanced Search Options, Designations, and is labeled "SN PLUS".

If you are searching by Product instead of Company it is under Designations.


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: 21Rouge] #5186701 08/14/19 07:40 AM
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https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsProductResults?accountId=-1&designations=SN%20PLUS

Everything with the SN PLUS designation from API's website, if the link works.

EDIT: It's 162 pages long :P

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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: 21Rouge] #5186819 08/14/19 09:07 AM
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Other than low speed detonation prevention with turbo charged engines, is there any advantage to the SN+ designation? Less calcium and more magnesium doesn't seem like any better performance for normally aspirated engines.

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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: Lubener] #5186954 08/14/19 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Lubener
Other than low speed detonation prevention with turbo charged engines, is there any advantage to the SN+ designation? Less calcium and more magnesium doesn't seem like any better performance for normally aspirated engines.


Great question, I've often wondered myself about this very thing.


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: 21Rouge] #5186959 08/14/19 11:48 AM
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Ive recently noticed Schaeffer manufacturing 9000 series oils now have the SN plus and
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https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?companyId=10248

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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: Diesel12] #5187815 08/15/19 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
This is a great question....doesn't appear to be an SN+ list on the API site, although I can't say I poked around the site that much.

Yeah there is, it is under Advanced Search Options, Designations, and is labeled "SN PLUS".

If you are searching by Product instead of Company it is under Designations.

Originally Posted by Diesel12
Ive recently noticed Schaeffer manufacturing 9000 series oils now have the SN plus and
ILSAC-GF5 approved thumbsup

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?companyId=10248

Thanks, guys, good that somebody looked at that site a lot more closely than I did.
I am poring through some of the higher viscosity SN+ oils and am very surprised to see that Delo 400 XSP 5W40 is on the list.
I am hoping to find some other gems!

EDIT - there are two 10W20s from DKR Petroleum on the list!
Taiwanese company...fascinating.
I'd assume VIIs are not required for that grade???


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: 21Rouge] #5188014 08/15/19 02:36 PM
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Rotella Multi Vehicle 5w-30 is SN+ as well!


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: jbutch] #5188047 08/15/19 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jbutch
Rotella Multi Vehicle 5w-30 is SN+ as well!

Why the heck is this not available in New England (as far as I can tell)???


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #5188138 08/15/19 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted by jbutch
Rotella Multi Vehicle 5w-30 is SN+ as well!

Why the heck is this not available in New England (as far as I can tell)???



Walmart ship to store!

Edit: ships free at home after 35$ too it seems

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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: jbutch] #5188488 08/16/19 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jbutch
Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted by jbutch
Rotella Multi Vehicle 5w-30 is SN+ as well!

Why the heck is this not available in New England (as far as I can tell)???

Walmart ship to store!
Edit: ships free at home after 35$ too it seems

I would think about ship to store...I have ordered oil to be shipped to my home and gotten the wrong thing delivered (not WM) so I prefer to see the jug before I buy.
I have to admit that I am used to just grabbing oil at WM on the spur of the moment, don't always plan ahead.
Maybe next spring, I already have my M1 0W30 AFE ready for my late fall/early winter change...wasn't planning to buy it while at WM earlier this week, but they had rollbacks!!!


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: Lubener] #5188792 08/16/19 12:21 PM
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No. I prefer SN oils in my cars/trucks.


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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #5188818 08/16/19 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted by jbutch
Rotella Multi Vehicle 5w-30 is SN+ as well!

Why the heck is this not available in New England (as far as I can tell)???


I get mine at NAPA in MA.
Watch for the sales. 20.99$/Gal.
Plus AAA discount/ Shell rebates

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Re: Up to date lists of available SN PLUS oils? [Re: PowerSurge] #5188872 08/16/19 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
No. I prefer SN oils in my cars/trucks.


Why? SN+ supercedes SN


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