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Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? #5183535 08/10/19 10:32 AM
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Being as I am a Pennzoil fan boi, I was hoping this year, as I plan on winterizing my boat myself this fall, to use this oil but all I can find up here is 2 stroke Pennzoil oil.
I know I have seen it available in the past, I believe, but after doing a bunch of searching yesterday via the net, none could be found.

Guess I'll go the Merc or Quicksilver route instead if I have no choice but I am hoping someone might be able to help me out first?

This will be my first time doing my boat as I have always, since new, just taken it back from where I purchased it from as it is only 11 kms away and their rates, imo, were very reasonable but since I am now retired and have nothing but time on my hands, I figured I can save a few bucks by doing it myself.
(2007 Merc 90 H/P 4 stroke)

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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5183544 08/10/19 10:40 AM
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Mystic that is sold at Canadian Tire is good oil. I've been running it the last two years.


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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5183748 08/10/19 04:49 PM
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I work at a US auto parts store and we carry Mystik now... the left over bottles of Pennzoil marine oil were re-stickered with the Mystik part number lol. That was about a year ago, and finally sold those two quarts a couple weeks ago. Clearly not a hot moving product!

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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5183756 08/10/19 05:03 PM
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Check with Blue Wave Energy. They'll either be able to get it to you or answer what might be going on with Canadian availability.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5184087 08/11/19 07:46 AM
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I haven't seen it for several years, it was a great oil, too bad.


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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5184220 08/11/19 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by irv
Being as I am a Pennzoil fan boi, I was hoping this year, as I plan on winterizing my boat myself this fall, to use this oil but all I can find up here is 2 stroke Pennzoil oil.
I know I have seen it available in the past, I believe, but after doing a bunch of searching yesterday via the net, none could be found.

Guess I'll go the Merc or Quicksilver route instead if I have no choice but I am hoping someone might be able to help me out first?

This will be my first time doing my boat as I have always, since new, just taken it back from where I purchased it from as it is only 11 kms away and their rates, imo, were very reasonable but since I am now retired and have nothing but time on my hands, I figured I can save a few bucks by doing it myself.
(2007 Merc 90 H/P 4 stroke)


just go to your local Canadian Tire:

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...-marine-engine-oil-4-l-0281739p.html#srp

Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: gotnogunk] #5184236 08/11/19 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FastLane
Mystic that is sold at Canadian Tire is good oil. I've been running it the last two years.


Maybe I'm anal but running Mystic just doesn't sit well with me? I look at Mystic as just another low end/cheap oil that will "just do" until you can get the proper oil.
This alone, imo, also doesn't sit well with me as I'd prefer an oil that "exceeds" the requirement "Formulated to meet the warranty requirements of Mercury, Yamaha, Evinrude and other leading OEMS"

Originally Posted by Garak
Check with Blue Wave Energy. They'll either be able to get it to you or answer what might be going on with Canadian availability.


Thanks Garak. I will look into that.


Originally Posted by gotnogunk
I haven't seen it for several years, it was a great oil, too bad.


From the reading I have done, I also concluded it was a top notch oil but like someone else mentioned, it likely didn't sell well so they discontinued it.

"The best four stroke oil for boats is the Pennzoil 5063875 as its formula ensures the engine runs clean whilst running at wide varying temperatures."

https://themarinelab.com/best-4-stroke-outboard-oil/

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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5184876 08/12/19 10:04 AM
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have you thought about a SAE 40, this one looks very stout and has a pour point of -27C


https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...bd3/a61538b4-0cbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1

available at Rock Auto

Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: 2004tdigls] #5184993 08/12/19 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Garak
Check with Blue Wave Energy. They'll either be able to get it to you or answer what might be going on with Canadian availability.


Is Blue Wave Ultramar, Garak? I did a search and all I could really come up with was Ultramar. I wrote/contacted them inquiring about Pennzoil Marine oil just now so I'll wait and see if I get a reply? Thanks again.

Originally Posted by 2004tdigls
have you thought about a SAE 40, this one looks very stout and has a pour point of -27C


https://sharena21.springcm.com/Publ...bd3/a61538b4-0cbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1

available at Rock Auto


I haven't really looked into anything much at this point but I do see that is a racing oil rather than a Marine specific oil. I would like to run/use an FCW oil if I can but it was suggested that this oil would also work??? "Shell Advance 4T Ultra 10W-40 (4 stroke motorcycle engine oil) is suitable oil for your Marine/Mercury Four-Stroke engine"
shrug

I am really not sure at this point what I will use but if the Pennzoil doesn't come through, then I'll likely just pay a premium price for a 5 ltr jug of Merc oil at my marina where I purchased the boat? I have looked on Amazon.ca but everything I could find said it was currently unavailable? Maybe it's too early in the season so hopefully availability will change soon?

Thanks guys! cheers


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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5185299 08/12/19 06:02 PM
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This is their site. I'm okay with posting it since it's a full line Pennzoil-Quaker State-Shell distributor and Shell is a sponsor. Here is the link for the local distributor lookup. They've always gotten back to me promptly with good price quotes. Even if your closest site isn't listed as a lubricant depot, it would be fine to email or phone them. The closest one to here isn't shown as a lubricant depot, and that's clearly wrong, since it is.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: Garak] #5185711 08/13/19 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Garak
This is their site. I'm okay with posting it since it's a full line Pennzoil-Quaker State-Shell distributor and Shell is a sponsor. Here is the link for the local distributor lookup. They've always gotten back to me promptly with good price quotes. Even if your closest site isn't listed as a lubricant depot, it would be fine to email or phone them. The closest one to here isn't shown as a lubricant depot, and that's clearly wrong, since it is.


Thanks, Garak. cheers

I just wrote them, via your first link, so I will wait until I hear back from them. I also contacted a local Marine, (Whitby) inquiring about oil for my engine and the owner informed me he could hook me up with the proper oil. I didn't ask him about Pennzoil, only if they carried/sold oil/filters and the like to do some winterizing and he informed me he could get whatever I needed to accomplish that.
I may write later to see what he says about Pennzoil, but I have a feeling he may tell me that he can't get it? We'll see.


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Mystic is a large US oil company. Its quality oil. Nothing to worry about.


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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: FastLane] #5186000 08/13/19 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by irv
Originally Posted by Garak
This is their site. I'm okay with posting it since it's a full line Pennzoil-Quaker State-Shell distributor and Shell is a sponsor. Here is the link for the local distributor lookup. They've always gotten back to me promptly with good price quotes. Even if your closest site isn't listed as a lubricant depot, it would be fine to email or phone them. The closest one to here isn't shown as a lubricant depot, and that's clearly wrong, since it is.


Thanks, Garak. cheers

I just wrote them, via your first link, so I will wait until I hear back from them. I also contacted a local Marine, (Whitby) inquiring about oil for my engine and the owner informed me he could hook me up with the proper oil. I didn't ask him about Pennzoil, only if they carried/sold oil/filters and the like to do some winterizing and he informed me he could get whatever I needed to accomplish that.
I may write later to see what he says about Pennzoil, but I have a feeling he may tell me that he can't get it? We'll see.


Well, I heard back from them, Garak and it's not looking good as the tech said he would contact Shell to see if there is a suitable replacement oil for the marine oil?
I asked about availability stateside or if it has completely been shut down but received no answer yet.

Originally Posted by FastLane
Mystic is a large US oil company. Its quality oil. Nothing to worry about.


You're likely right, FL, but I think if I can't find/get the Pennzoil, I'll likely stick with either Merc or Quicksilver oil/filters?

Thanks just the same. cheers


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Re: Pennzoil 4 stroke Marine oil not available in Canada anymore? [Re: irv] #5186196 08/13/19 04:50 PM
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Well, here's the answer. Pennzoil is no longer producing this oil. cry

Hi,

Highlighted below is what I received from Shell. I DO NOT recommend using the oil stated in the answer, as it is not marine certified.



Hi Derrick,

Sadly, we discontinued this product. Best replacement is Rotella T4 10W-30, however not NMMA certified, but great for gasoline engines not in a vehicle.



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2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
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are you in fresh water or salt? If fresh, you are over-thinking it.

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