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Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? #5169859 07/24/19 03:01 PM
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This is 4,000 miles on my 7.3. Is fuel dilution a problem here? Viscosity is low but this thing shears oil. Boron and potassium is left over from archoil

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Re: Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? [Re: jfairchild327] #5169880 07/24/19 03:30 PM
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Viscosity dropped to a 30 grade, wear #'s look OK. There's a lot of fuel going into the oil though. I would look into a possible problem with the injectors.


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Re: Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? [Re: demarpaint] #5169893 07/24/19 03:41 PM
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I just wonder if they are reading the viscosity and getting a false reading or are they actually measuring fuel


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The 7.3 don't shear oil I owned one a 2002. The fuel shouldn't be so high.


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Re: Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? [Re: jfairchild327] #5169927 07/24/19 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jfairchild327
I just wonder if they are reading the viscosity and getting a false reading or are they actually measuring fuel

They are doing it by gas chromatography so they actually measured the fuel.


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Re: Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? [Re: jfairchild327] #5170004 07/24/19 06:03 PM
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You have the record for fuel dilution that I have seen in a UOA on BITOG.
5.3% in only 4000 miles. Needs to be dealt with.


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Re: Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? [Re: jfairchild327] #5170084 07/24/19 07:31 PM
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Injector o rings may be the first place to look.

A black fuel filter is a typical sign of blown injector o rings, but not always.

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Originally Posted by A_Harman
You have the record for fuel dilution that I have seen in a UOA on BITOG.
5.3% in only 4000 miles. Needs to be dealt with.



Nope. I do. I had 10 percent, actually it was more, but that's the cutoff in which they quit measuring.


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Re: Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? [Re: jfairchild327] #5170291 07/25/19 04:27 AM
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When you suspect something is wrong, it's always nice to have a second sample. However, you'd have to have pulled it at the time. I learned this long ago; I always pull two samples so in case one gets lost or questions arise ...
That being said, it's likely that the fuel count is correct here given the method they use to assess.
Probably a leaking injector or injector o-rings.
Overall, the UOA shows no ill effects from the fuel concentration, but I'd not let that be a reason to ignore the issue.


BTW - the 7.3L will shear oil; it's still HEUI. It just won't shear it as quickly at the 6.0L because the 7.3L uses a different style of injector. The 7.3L only uses the oil pressure to actuate the intensifier for the injection event and subsequently uses a spring for the return stroke, whereas the 6.0L uses oil pressure on both sides to actuate the plunger. Hence the 6.0L uses the oil twice as much for the HEUI events. The 6.0L also is capable of more injection events per cycle, as the return spring system was deemed too slow. So the 6.0L will shear oil more quickly than a 7.3L. But make no mistake; a 7.3L will shear oil given time.

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The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
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Google "7.3 Cody Test" that is one way to diagnose a high pressure oil leak on a 7.3.

Re: Ford 7.3 fuel. Is this a problem? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #5171635 07/26/19 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Harman
You have the record for fuel dilution that I have seen in a UOA on BITOG.
5.3% in only 4000 miles. Needs to be dealt with.



Nope. I do. I had 10 percent, actually it was more, but that's the cutoff in which they quit measuring.


Wow. Was that on your Cummins 6.7?


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