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M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel #5168305 07/22/19 04:12 PM
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She has had this MB S 350 since new and her husband has used this oil( M1 0-30AFE) exclusively as he changes it himself. I just found this out today. The car has 130K and runs very well with 8-12 K OCIs.

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2007 Ford Fusion 254,000 miles
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2017 Ford Fusion 86K
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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168318 07/22/19 04:20 PM
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ESP 0W30 would have been a better choice. Although it appears it didn't matter.


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: demarpaint] #5168324 07/22/19 04:22 PM
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Either 0-30 ESP or 5-30 ESP is book on this engine. I just drove the Benz the other day and it runs great.


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M1 ATF and M1 LV HP ATF
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168325 07/22/19 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tig1
Either 0-30 ESP or 5-30 ESP is book on this engine. I just drove the Benz the other day and it runs great.

Yes, either is fine. thumbsup


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168394 07/22/19 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tig1
Either 0-30 ESP or 5-30 ESP is book on this engine. I just drove the Benz the other day and it runs great.

For now...


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168402 07/22/19 06:54 PM
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You def want a speced low ash diesel oil. Turbo seals eventually go out and a new dpf isn’t cheap. Had to put one on my uncle’s gl320 at 180k bc turbo seals were bad and car started drinking oil, and that was with the low ash M1 5w40 esp.


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168450 07/22/19 07:59 PM
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Glad to see it worked out thus far. The company I work for has a bunch of 2.1L and 3.0L BlueTec diesels with 200k+ running MB branded M1 0w30esp At 20k intervals.

MB diesels are tough as nails. Hopefully they switch to the esp 0w30 moving forward.

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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168584 07/22/19 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tig1
She has had this MB S 350 since new and her husband has used this oil( M1 0-30AFE) exclusively as he changes it himself. I just found this out today. The car has 130K and runs very well with 8-12 K OCIs.

She will have premature DPF failure.


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: edyvw] #5168598 07/23/19 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by tig1
She has had this MB S 350 since new and her husband has used this oil( M1 0-30AFE) exclusively as he changes it himself. I just found this out today. The car has 130K and runs very well with 8-12 K OCIs.

She will have premature DPF failure.


Yes she will. Have him call about getting the DPF replaced. That will motivate him to use a low saps oil.


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: dbias] #5168609 07/23/19 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dbias
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by tig1
She has had this MB S 350 since new and her husband has used this oil( M1 0-30AFE) exclusively as he changes it himself. I just found this out today. The car has 130K and runs very well with 8-12 K OCIs.

She will have premature DPF failure.


Yes she will. Have him call about getting the DPF replaced. That will motivate him to use a low saps oil.

LOL. Exactly.


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168615 07/23/19 03:13 AM
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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168673 07/23/19 06:35 AM
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It doesn't seem to make much since to use diesel engines in cars any longer. Better MPG is one, but that is offset by much higher diesel prices VS gas, and much higher maintenance cost. Longevity is in question as well maintained gas engines will run 200-400K these days. I did find out NAPA can order M1 0-5-30 ESP oil, so that will be the next OC in the MB.

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2007 Ford Fusion 254,000 miles
M1 5-20HM
2017 Ford Fusion 86K
M1 0-20EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and M1 LV HP ATF
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: tig1] #5168679 07/23/19 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tig1
It doesn't seem to make much since to use diesel engines in cars any longer. Better MPG is one, but that is offset by much higher diesel prices VS gas, and much higher maintenance cost. Longevity is in question as well maintained gas engines will run 200-400K these days. I did find out NAPA can order M1 0-5-30 ESP oil, so that will be the next OC in the MB.

Check out Ebay and Amazon for ESP 0w and 5W30, they occasionally have the oil in the $8/ quart range.


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Re: M1 0-30AFE in my daughters 2014 Bluetec MB diesel [Re: edyvw] #5168684 07/23/19 06:46 AM
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What range is considered low saps ?

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Originally Posted by 4WD
What range is considered low saps ?



iirc SA (Sulphated Ash) of .8 or less. (i.e. ACEA Cx)


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