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9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? #5168094 07/22/19 01:20 PM
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I hear people complain about the 6607 being too small (not enough dirt capacity) and the 7317 being too long (prone to dents). My mazda is the 6607 and my van is the 7313. My mother in law's Subaru is either 6607 or 7317 and my fathers Pilot is 7317. Would the 9688 be a good overall fit for all these vehicles? Not super wide and in between length of the 6607 and 7317?

I guess 7317 for all is going to be suggested but it sticks out too far on my mazda and I'm afraid it will be hit.


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Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168102 07/22/19 01:25 PM
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WHAT?

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168114 07/22/19 01:38 PM
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Why not run the filter that is designed for your car? Size is not a indication of quality.

Who is complaining about these filters?


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Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168121 07/22/19 01:59 PM
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Not going to research the specs., but there's more to oil filters than the ability to screw on and physically fit.


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Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168125 07/22/19 02:04 PM
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My 4 wheeler takes a 6607...if I put a 7317 on it I have to grease it up to get it down the trails LOL

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168126 07/22/19 02:06 PM
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6607 is what is spec'd for one of my Subies, and 7317 on the other. I use either XG7317 or NG7055 depending on what I was able to stock up on. I have not had any issues with 7317s denting FWIW, sounds like internet fallacy/improper handling.

I had a NG 7712 which crosses to 6607 and it did not look great on a C&P.

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168149 07/22/19 02:28 PM
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PimTac right filter guts differ, no?

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168170 07/22/19 02:50 PM
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IIRC, the BPV PSI/kPa is higher for Mazda/Subaru than Honda/Nissan/Hyundai.

In a perfect world, all Subaru or Mazda applications would use a PH7317-sized filter with the proper 20+PSI BPV, all newer Honda/Nissan/Mitsu the 7317, and older Honda and all Hyundai-Kias are serviced with the new Korean-made 51334.

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168180 07/22/19 03:02 PM
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The XG7317 should have no problem flowing enough/having low enough differential pressure to keep any Subaru happy. The NG7055 is spec'd at 27PSID and is 7317-sized, which means you should theoretically be able to cover them all with at most two filters if you are being really anal about BPV PSID, which I think is really a moot point with a filter like the XGs. The thing that gives me a warm fuzzy about the element in the 7055 is they know the filter will see 27PSID, so you would think the filter media will be plenty heavy to deal with 22-25PSID all day without worrying about tearing. All of the 7055s I've seen cut open look essentially brand new but oily.

My mom has an '18 Forester, and once she's out of warranty I will have no problem running that FB25 on PUP/Amsoil and XG filtration to 15k. That will cut maintenance costs by 1/2-2/3 and still live to the far side of 200k.

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168207 07/22/19 03:27 PM
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6607 has plenty enough holding capacity for a vehicle reommended oci/fci. It's standard spec on most Nissan's and used by many quick lubes and indies for 6607, 7317 and 9688/3593 applications. 7317 only ~3/4" longer, while the Mazda may be an exception idk, I've seen few if any applications where it won't work well in place of 6607. Many newer vehicles including Honda (2008-) and Nissan now have filter restriction rings or block/pan restriction around filter making the 9688 diameter a no go. Don't know about Mazda.

My advice, if you're really concerned about the 7317 extra length, stick with 6607. It'll be fine.

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168267 07/22/19 04:41 PM
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Fram increased burst strength on the Ultra XG9688 to 310 psi a couple years ago. The Kia Optima takes this filter. However; I've read that Subaru has it's own specs for bypass....I would keep what OEM specs.


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Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168313 07/22/19 05:16 PM
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I like the looks of the hyundai 26300 35503 and 35504 filters. They cross to the 6607 and 7317 so not sure which size they are.

There are a few cut open here on the forum, look like they are built like tanks and around $6 at walmart.

Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168359 07/22/19 06:11 PM
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The OEM filter size is just fine unless you're driving an oil burning junk of a vehicle. Ed


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Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5168501 07/22/19 10:15 PM
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How much dirt capacity does one need in a filter? If you are filling up a 6607 to the point where it reaches constant bypass, you’ve got some major issues where upsizing to a larger filter isn’t going to be the fix.


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Re: 9688 the one size fits all for asian cars? [Re: jayjr1105] #5169277 07/23/19 09:02 PM
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The Nissan 5.6 V8 uses those microscopic filters and they never blow up because of it. Just look for those filters than can last 10,000 miles and have a thicker shell.

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