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Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT #5166935 07/21/19 07:17 AM
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Thinking on giving this oil a try in our Honda 1.5LT since it’s got the problematic fuel dilution issue. What are your thoughts? I’m currently running Amsoil SS 0W20. My last oil change I got about 1.5 qrts fuel in the oil pan, roughly 30% olm and about 6000 miles. Honda told me to monitor it and bring it in if there’s an issue. Although during the first 15K there was very minimal rise on the dipstick till now. The only thing I can think of she idled the car for two hours once a week. Before that she never idled the car for that long period of time.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
AMSOIL SS 0W30 / Toyota filter

2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: ARB1977] #5166993 07/21/19 08:26 AM
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That engine is a known heavy fuel diluter. I would recommend shortening the intervals.

The Amsoil XL is fine as it’s SN+

I would lean towards QSUD or something quality but cheap and change it at 3k intervals in that particular engine. That engine is probably the worst fuel diluting engine on the market. Honda definitely needs to fine tune their DI technology.

I’d also likely stick with the 0w20 as this vehicle has stop/start correct?

Amsoil XL/OE 5w30 is considerably thicker with an HTHS of 3.3 vs 2.74 for their 0w20 oils.

If Amsoil is what you want to run exclusively I’d try OE 0w20 and cut the intervals to 3k-4K max.

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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: ARB1977] #5167029 07/21/19 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ARB1977
I’m currently running Amsoil SS 0W20. My last oil change I got about 1.5 qrts fuel in the oil pan, roughly 30% olm and about 6000 miles. Honda told me to monitor it and bring it in if there’s an issue. Although during the first 15K there was very minimal rise on the dipstick till now. The only thing I can think of she idled the car for two hours once a week. Before that she never idled the car for that long period of time.

That just blows me away. I'd be beside myself if that were my car.

I'd use a 40 grade oil for sure, drop the 20 grade like a hot rock and change it frequently. There's zero benefit to using an expensive oil such as Amsoil.


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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: ARB1977] #5167044 07/21/19 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ARB1977
Thinking on giving this oil a try in our Honda 1.5LT since it’s got the problematic fuel dilution issue. What are your thoughts? I’m currently running Amsoil SS 0W20. My last oil change I got about 1.5 qrts fuel in the oil pan, roughly 30% olm and about 6000 miles. Honda told me to monitor it and bring it in if there’s an issue. Although during the first 15K there was very minimal rise on the dipstick till now. The only thing I can think of she idled the car for two hours once a week. Before that she never idled the car for that long period of time.

1.5qts of fuel? I wouldn't worry about running Amsoil. I would use the cheapest oil that meets the specs.

Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: ARB1977] #5167049 07/21/19 09:15 AM
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Obviously idling the engine is contributing to this. The solution is clear.

I don’t agree with running a more expensive oil on short oci’s.


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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: donnyj08] #5167080 07/21/19 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by donnyj08
That engine is a known heavy fuel diluter. I would recommend shortening the intervals.

The Amsoil XL is fine as it’s SN+

I would lean towards QSUD or something quality but cheap and change it at 3k intervals in that particular engine. That engine is probably the worst fuel diluting engine on the market. Honda definitely needs to fine tune their DI technology.

I’d also likely stick with the 0w20 as this vehicle has stop/start correct?

Amsoil XL/OE 5w30 is considerably thicker with an HTHS of 3.3 vs 2.74 for their 0w20 oils.

If Amsoil is what you want to run exclusively I’d try OE 0w20 and cut the intervals to 3k-4K max.

I wish I would done more research before buying. To be honest it’s been awesome considering the fuel dilution.


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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: kschachn] #5167102 07/21/19 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by ARB1977
I’m currently running Amsoil SS 0W20. My last oil change I got about 1.5 qrts fuel in the oil pan, roughly 30% olm and about 6000 miles. Honda told me to monitor it and bring it in if there’s an issue. Although during the first 15K there was very minimal rise on the dipstick till now. The only thing I can think of she idled the car for two hours once a week. Before that she never idled the car for that long period of time.

That just blows me away. I'd be beside myself if that were my car.

I'd use a 40 grade oil for sure, drop the 20 grade like a hot rock and change it frequently. There's zero benefit to using an expensive oil such as Amsoil.

On a positive note honda did extend the power train warranty to 6 years unlimited mileage, lol.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
AMSOIL SS 0W30 / Toyota filter

2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: CT8] #5167107 07/21/19 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CT8
Originally Posted by ARB1977
Thinking on giving this oil a try in our Honda 1.5LT since it’s got the problematic fuel dilution issue. What are your thoughts? I’m currently running Amsoil SS 0W20. My last oil change I got about 1.5 qrts fuel in the oil pan, roughly 30% olm and about 6000 miles. Honda told me to monitor it and bring it in if there’s an issue. Although during the first 15K there was very minimal rise on the dipstick till now. The only thing I can think of she idled the car for two hours once a week. Before that she never idled the car for that long period of time.

1.5qts of fuel? I wouldn't worry about running Amsoil. I would use the cheapest oil that meets the specs.

I bought a case of SS 0W20 a year ago. I’ve got enough for one more change after that I’ll decide what to use.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
AMSOIL SS 0W30 / Toyota filter

2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
Factory fill / Honda filter
Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: ARB1977] #5167516 07/21/19 06:25 PM
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Are these engines wearing out the piston rings or cylinder sleeves? I assume the cylinder walls are getting washed pretty clean if they are depositing that much gasoline in the sump?

Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: nascarnation] #5167519 07/21/19 06:31 PM
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Camshaft damage is the most common failure associated with the high fuel dilution on the Honda 1.5T

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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: ARB1977] #5167521 07/21/19 06:33 PM
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I wonder how well Magnatec would do in these engines......the "clinginess" of the Mangatec molecules may payoff in an engine possibly prone to cameshaft issues.


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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: nascarnation] #5167556 07/21/19 07:20 PM
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In the states I haven’t heard of any engine failures. I know in China they stopped selling 1.5LT for the same issue.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
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2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
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Re: Amsoil XL 5W30 1.5LT [Re: buster] #5167560 07/21/19 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by buster
I wonder how well Magnatec would do in these engines......the "clinginess" of the Mangatec molecules may payoff in an engine possibly prone to cameshaft issues.

The crazy part is the engine runs perfect even though the fuel dilution issue.


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