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New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. #5164076 07/18/19 07:38 AM
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Hello everyone.

Yesterday my wife and I bought a 2018 Dodge Grand Caravan GT.

I will be doing the oil changes. It says 5w-20 in the online owners manual, but its a little confusing.

My question is can I use 0w-20 Supertech Synthetic in this engine? I bought a 6 gallon box a few weeks ago for $2.37.

We are in mid Mississippi, so it is very hot here. I was thinking of using this in the cooler months and a 5w-30 in the hot summer months. Obviously some overlap will occur. We only have a few days a year below 32f, but we have many over 90f.

I assume 5w-20 is in it now, so I will for sure run this change out. I haven’t actually checked the monitor yet, but I feel certain the dealership serviced it before we got it.

Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164081 07/18/19 07:43 AM
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From my understanding, we can alway replace a 5W with a 0W. Others will explain better than I can.


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164088 07/18/19 07:53 AM
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We have talked about this before. The same engine in the Chrysler Pacifica calls for 0W20. General consensus is that the cheaper Dodge is mostly used in rental car fleets which like the cheaper 5W20 for maintenance, while the Pacifica is a slightly more premium car that calls for 10K mile oil changes, so a synthetic is more appropriate.

For what its worth, I run synthetic 5W30 in mine, in SW FL. Its sits idling the in car pickup lane at my kids school for hours and hours every week, so I prefer the 30 weight in there.


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164089 07/18/19 07:55 AM
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I suggest, don't overthink it.
That engine will outlast the car on 5W-20.
Just use a 5W-20 that meets the MS-6395 warranty requirements.
Enjoy the ride!


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164092 07/18/19 07:56 AM
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If I were you, id run the 0w20 year around. It will handle the heat just fine.


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164097 07/18/19 08:00 AM
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You will be fine with any 5W-20 or 0W-20 oil. 2018+ Pentastar 3.6L engines are the improved variant with a revised VVT system.

FWIW, I have run 5W-30 in my 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL with the 3.6L Pentastar also with no issue. That being said, for the Warrany Nazi's out there, I would say use whatever the manual calls out for in terms of weight and MS-6395 material spec FCA recommends when shopping for an oil.


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164168 07/18/19 09:56 AM
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My leased work vehicle for the last 15 yrs have been Caravans or Journeys with that very engine. It gets whatever cheap bulk 5w30/5w20 conventional that the authorized service place uses. All went over 100k HARD miles just great, the 3.6 is a trooper. Supertech 0w20 will work fine.


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164239 07/18/19 11:37 AM
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Anybody know if this 0w-20 supertech meets warranty specs? The MS-6395? I tried to look online, but was not successful.

I dont think I have the receipt for it. I don’t think I’ll have any warranty issues, but I’d like to cover my bases.

I can get Baldwin filters at work pretty cheap, I assume these will be fine?

Does warranty require receipts or would a recorded mileage be ok?


I did try to search for a lot of the questions I have asked and didn’t really get what I’m looking for.

Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164243 07/18/19 11:42 AM
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Also I plan to change every 5k.

Or should I trust the oil monitor?

Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164275 07/18/19 12:22 PM
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Use Valvoline 5W/20 and whatever filter you want. 5-6K mile interval is where I would land. if you want to extend to 10k miles or monitor recommendations then use the synthetic MS-6395 in 5W20 and probably a synthetic media filter. Buy a small notebook and tape the receipts in it along with any box ends with description/upc etc. Join carfax and upload the data if you are really paranoid. There are literally tens of thousands of these engines being used as taxis, airport transporters and ubers that have racked up well in excess of 100k miles using the cheapest approved oils.


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: racinjason] #5164336 07/18/19 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by racinjason
Anybody know if this 0w-20 supertech meets warranty specs? The MS-6395? I tried to look online, but was not successful.

I dont think I have the receipt for it. I don’t think I’ll have any warranty issues, but I’d like to cover my bases.

I can get Baldwin filters at work pretty cheap, I assume these will be fine?

Does warranty require receipts or would a recorded mileage be ok?


I did try to search for a lot of the questions I have asked and didn’t really get what I’m looking for.

No Supertech doesn't meet specs. I own a 2018 Grand Caravan and I used Havoline ProDS 5w20 6 qt. Box cause it was 19.95 with Mobil 1 filter that I picked up at Walmart for 2.00 I think. I change between 4 to 5k which is severe duty according to manual. This meets spec and best price.


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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: askani79705] #5164343 07/18/19 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by askani79705
My leased work vehicle for the last 15 yrs have been Caravans or Journeys with that very engine.


It has only been out since 2012

OP, You can trust the oil monitor, especially with synthetic, the Pentastar is very easy on oil. Ours goes about 7.5-8k OCI.

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Re: New to me 2018 Grand Caravan 3.6 weight questions. [Re: Char Baby] #5164345 07/18/19 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Char Baby
From my understanding, we can alway replace a 5W with a 0W. Others will explain better than I can.


As long as Noack is not a concern


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Originally Posted by PandaBear
Originally Posted by Char Baby
From my understanding, we can alway replace a 5W with a 0W. Others will explain better than I can.


As long as Noack is not a concern


Even then, it's going to depend on oil selection.

PQIA 5w-20 oil list:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/Feb2014/consolidated5w20ALL.html

Noack varies from 6.5% (Pennzoil) to 18.4% (Valvoline Nexgen), but many well-known brand names aren't showing amazing results here:
- Chevron is 14.6%
- Kendall is 15.1%
- Brad Penn is 15.2%
- Valvoline is 15.2%
- Castrol GTX is 14%
- Formula Shell is 15.1%

This, when compared to some 0w-20's:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/consolidated%200W-20.html
- M1 AFE is 10.1%
- QS UD is 10.4%
- Castrol Edge is 13.2%


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You have to compare apple to apple, synthetic 5w20 will likely have about 8-10% while dino is about 13-15%, vs 0w20 (only synthetic) being 10-12%.

That's why you should only compare the same brand in synthetic.


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