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No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! #5161677 07/15/19 03:11 PM
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I know, I've heard don't buy Champion, don't buy Fram, yatta, yatta, yatta, but I've had good luck with Fram, and until this one, Champion too. So, I ordered a 24 pack of CJ14 plugs for the tractors in our family/neighborhood, and they came today, nicely packaged in styrofoam and sitting pretty. Well, probably over a third of them have the insulators in the plug waaaay crooked. another third of them have an electrode that over reaches the tip by a mile, and the rest have the ground electrode crooked as all get out, the latter of which is repairable, but man this is some crappy quality control. There is I think one or two "passable" plugs in the whole 24 pack, and even they are not as good as a typical NGK or Autolite. I just can't believe it. I tried to take some pics and you can get the idea on some of them, but it's really pretty shabby.

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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161684 07/15/19 03:15 PM
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Yup. NGK or go home...

Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161686 07/15/19 03:16 PM
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If you want perfection, pay $20 for a plug like I do for a Honda Insight, and even then you may have to play with the electrode. I don't see anything unusual there, especially on $2 plugs.

Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161691 07/15/19 03:21 PM
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im betting those are forgeries..i dont care for champions..but i have never seen plugs that looked like that


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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161694 07/15/19 03:23 PM
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I nearly choked when I bought Motorcraft plugs for my FX4 EB - $6.95 apiece! But for the money they were perfect. Get what you pay for.


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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161699 07/15/19 03:26 PM
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Did you purchase these from a reputable supplier? I'm not so sure just based on the packaging. I'm betting on Chinese counterfeits.


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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161701 07/15/19 03:27 PM
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Have not used Champion in decades. Those plugs look awful for new ...

Platinum fine wire in everything for me now. Even the tractors.

0.040+" gaps when they go and still easier to light. The coil does not get hot. The points look good.

Moroso spiral core wire only from years ago to today and onward. Have some Taylor wires in the 5.8L that came with the truck. They seem OK, but will get Moroso's when they start showing any arcing to nearby surfaces.

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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161704 07/15/19 03:29 PM
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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161708 07/15/19 03:32 PM
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I got them on ebay, so it's highly believable that they are counterfeit, who knows?

Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161721 07/15/19 03:48 PM
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Made in India?


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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161732 07/15/19 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bchannell
I got them on ebay, so it's highly believable that they are counterfeit, who knows?


It's actually pretty easy to find out. Contact Champion. If they're counterfeit they'll let you know, and you can humbly apologize for disparaging Champion when they had nothing to do with it. Or you can crow about how you were right.

I've used a lot of Champion plugs over the years, and I've never had any that look like that, But then I purchase from reputable sources (not Ebay).

Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161762 07/15/19 04:35 PM
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Can you please post a pic of the box, logo and/or label? Just curious, in case they turn out to be knock off's. I don't use champion auto plugs, but those do look unusually bad. The finish on the ends of the barrels looks bloody awful...


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Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161763 07/15/19 04:36 PM
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They look like $2 a piece to me ...whats the complaint? I'll bet if you put one in the moter it will work just fine. I mean its not high tech its 2 metal bits in proximity and a bolt of lightning jumps across. If you want pretty pay for pretty. ...or maybe pretty with benefits ;-)

Re: No more Champion plugs for me LOOK! [Re: bchannell] #5161784 07/15/19 04:57 PM
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They may or may not be counterfeit, Mother Champion will probably figure that out for you.
But is there any chance that the ebay seller put all of his returns and blems into a single package....and then sold them to you?

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Originally Posted by bchannell
I got them on ebay, so it's highly believable that they are counterfeit, who knows?


Then I suggest your thread title be changed to”No more EBay parts for me LOOK!”...


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