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Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 07:56 AM
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MaxLife PDSPDS were updated 7.11.19. I came across this article on the Valvoline website. High Mileage Oil"Valvoline uses “proprietary” ashless anti-wear additives......" "For MaxLife™ oils, Valvoline employs a thicker version of the oil that still meets the requirements of 0W-20 because there is a broad range of viscosity that is acceptable within that rating, he said." "“It has more cleaning agents, more ashless antiwear, more added protection across the board,” Smith said. The added turbocharger protection for modern engines also contributes to the oil’s dexos 1 Gen 2 certification. If all this sounds good, don’t worry, you don’t have to have a high mileage car to start using it. “ There’s no reason you can’t use MaxLife™ from day one,” said Smith. “That’s what I do.”
2019 Frontier Pro 4X - RGT 5w30 2019 Impreza Sport - OE fill
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
[Re: buster]
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07/14/19 08:26 AM
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I think this is an attempt by Valvoline to push marketing of MaxLife upstream a bit since VWB is now being marketed as a semi-syn. More of a marketing ploy than a product rejiggering. I've used MaxLife on a number of cars with under 75K and it's performed well. Can't change my oil, but now have a number of $10 oil change coupons--place used to offer MaxLife for an additional $10 and I usually bit. Now it's $10 off of a regular $50 MaxLife oil change--not worth the price spread given that WallyWorld puts MaxLife and VWB at the same price point.
Anyway, the article matches my beliefs about MaxLife and glad to see it in print.
2017 Kia Soul Plus-- VWB 5w30+ a bit of Harvest King syn 5w30-- 70,000 miles
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
[Re: csandste]
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07/14/19 10:42 AM
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why is it valvoline on the ccs test post results that it meets the standard for each weight of oil and not there true test results ??
2009 Saturn Vue. 2015 Mustang GT Convertible.
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 11:00 AM
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csandste
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why is it valvoline on the ccs test post results that it meets the standard for each weight of oil and not there true test results ?? Cause most of their customer base doesn't subscribe to BITOG and could care less.
2017 Kia Soul Plus-- VWB 5w30+ a bit of Harvest King syn 5w30-- 70,000 miles
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 11:03 AM
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why is it valvoline on the ccs test post results that it meets the standard for each weight of oil and not there true test results ?? So you are saying that Valvoline is purposely misrepresenting their numbers?
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 11:05 AM
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why is it valvoline on the ccs test post results that it meets the standard for each weight of oil and not there true test results ?? Why not?
1994 BMW 530i, 251K 1996 Honda Accord, 280K 1999 Toyota Sienna, 428K 2000 Toyota ECHO, 284K
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 01:08 PM
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We are still waiting for the "next generation add packs," whereby a 0W16 oil won't stretch timing chains, when subjected to the dense, small-particle sized soot produced by these small displacement TGDI engines.
Thanks buster for zeroing in on the issues of the day, sulfated ash, NOACK, fuel dilution, LSPI prevention, and viscosity.
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 03:09 PM
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I saw Valvoline Advance with Maxlife Technology on sale yesterday so it went into my Silverado. It works just as well as anything else I tried.
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 04:09 PM
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why is it valvoline on the ccs test post results that it meets the standard for each weight of oil and not there true test results ?? So you are saying that Valvoline is purposely misrepresenting their numbers? No...but if you go to pennzoil and check there specs they show the oils test results not just meet ing the spec, so anyone looking for oil with better cold flow specs get no help from valvoline.
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 04:11 PM
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why is it valvoline on the ccs test post results that it meets the standard for each weight of oil and not there true test results ?? Why not? why !! because anyone looking for the best cold flow specs get no help here by just showing that YES we meet the specs.
2009 Saturn Vue. 2015 Mustang GT Convertible.
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
[Re: hemitom]
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07/14/19 06:18 PM
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Castrol did that for years, and may still on some of their products. It's annoying, but not that big of a deal. If you're buying a 5w-30 ILSAC or a 5w-20, you're going to have good cold weather numbers, almost certainly better than those of a 5w-40. If that's not sufficient, and 5w-XX has been sufficient for me in Saskatchewan, then a 0w-XX is an alternative. If I were picking oils solely by cold weather numbers within a grade, I'd be looking at Petro-Canada or Amsoil, since they both have some ringers.
Plain, simple Garak.
2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, Wix 57356 1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 06:37 PM
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Castrol did that for years, and may still on some of their products. It's annoying, but not that big of a deal. If you're buying a 5w-30 ILSAC or a 5w-20, you're going to have good cold weather numbers, almost certainly better than those of a 5w-40. If that's not sufficient, and 5w-XX has been sufficient for me in Saskatchewan, then a 0w-XX is an alternative. If I were picking oils solely by cold weather numbers within a grade, I'd be looking at Petro-Canada or Amsoil, since they both have some ringers. No you are correct, annoying yes ! Still hasn't stopped me from using valvoline . Started using valvoline in 1988 and almost exclusively since the maxlife blend came out.
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/14/19 06:47 PM
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Yeah Valvoline has really good oils... Even though they about number top 3 seller amongst the majors.
Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe Napa full synthetic 5w30 Wix 57356 Oil filter "Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
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Re: Valvoline MaxLife FS - Updated PDS
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07/15/19 09:01 AM
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why !! because anyone looking for the best cold flow specs get no help here by just showing that YES we meet the specs. As long as it flows to the pickup tube that's all that matters. The winter rating of the oil guarantees performance in this regard (as Garak noted above), "flow" after that has little meaning. The way you test for flow to the pickup tube is SAE J300 and the results are printed on the label of every container.
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