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Pennzoil Gold #5157485
07/11/19 08:20 AM
07/11/19 08:20 AM
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Is this product discontinued?

My 2018 Silverado calls for 0w20. However it sits (not started) for up to 3 weeks … so thought moving off majority PAO (Mobil 1) would be a good idea for film retention.
Well it was a challenge to find a semi synthetic in this grade and still have a Dexos badge.
Found PG on eBay at $90 for six gallons. Noticed they also had 5w20 and 5w30 for the same price, fast and free shipping … showed the boxes stacked on pallets if anybody is interested

Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157506
07/11/19 08:37 AM
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For essentially the same price give or take, use Quaker State Ultimate Durability Full Synthetic, it is a fantastic buy for under $20.
Why use a synthetic blend when you can use a high quality full synthetic for the same price, or less even when Menards has it on sale for $14.99 for 5qts.
Mobil 1 is about $23 at WM and that's a phenomenal 0W-20 motor oil.

I used Pennzoil Gold 0W-20 in my '14 Camry for one oil change just to try it and it served it's purpose for 5,000 miles (30,000-35,000 miles) but since I switched to Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20, the engine has gotten quieter both at operating temp and at startup and my mileage improved by about 0.3-0.5 mpg overall. I know that's not significant, but its a small positive impact to my wallet and the environment (the improvement in mileage over 10,000 miles essentially pays for the materials for me to perform my next oil change when using the Mobil 1 AFE).

Cheers,

1911Champ


2008 Toyota Sienna LE 3.5 2GR-FE, 175,000 Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30, Mobil 1 M1C-251A
2014 Toyota Camry LE 2.5 2AR-FE, 50,000 Mobil 1 AFE 0W-20, Mobil 1 M1C-251A
Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157512
07/11/19 08:41 AM
07/11/19 08:41 AM
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N.H, U.S.A.
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I always liked the bronze bottle prior to it becoming the DEXOS licensed.

Really don't know what this will do for you.

You could use M1 0W20 AFE that is NOT majority PAO (per the SDS)

Don't let the truck sit for three weeks smile

Maybe Pennzoil High Mileage 10w30 or Castrol Magnatec

Good luck.


2019 VW Jetta S 6MT OCI#0 5033mi-Castrol Edge Prof? VW508+OE Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#7 52665mi-Castrol GTX Magnatec 5W20 + SOA Filter
Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 1911CHAMPION] #5157520
07/11/19 08:46 AM
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Texas
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Already dropped the Tahoe (same engine) from M1 EP to M1 AFE since the OLM and my schedule are only letting me run around 6k OCI’s under warranty. The L83’s are DI on thin oil ... so I’m not running too long regardless.

PAO is pretty “dry” and it’s been mentioned here many times that the (capillary) film retention is weaker than conventional oils … guessing semi synthetic is somewhat in between …
I’ll probably just run 5k-6k on the truck … and use my bulk PF63E filters.

Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157570
07/11/19 09:29 AM
07/11/19 09:29 AM
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It can be purchased at Walmart online for slightly cheaper per quart than the Ebay listing.

Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157571
07/11/19 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 4WD
Already dropped the Tahoe (same engine) from M1 EP to M1 AFE since the OLM and my schedule are only letting me run around 6k OCI’s under warranty. The L83’s are DI on thin oil ... so I’m not running too long regardless.

PAO is pretty “dry” and it’s been mentioned here many times that the (capillary) film retention is weaker than conventional oils … guessing semi synthetic is somewhat in between …
I’ll probably just run 5k-6k on the truck … and use my bulk PF63E filters.



For mine I have used PPHM, Napa Syn, AC Delco Synblend, and STHM. There really has been no difference I can tell.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157590
07/11/19 09:59 AM
07/11/19 09:59 AM
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where the wind blows....OK
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where the wind blows....OK
I don't think it's discontinued. However, my coworker uses it and it has dried up on the shelves around him.

Looking at the reviews of it on Pennzoils website the first comment says it's hard to find.


17 Nissan Frontier 4.0 QSUD 5w30
19 KIA Sorento 3.3 Factory Fill
16 KIA Forte 1.8 QSUD 5w30
Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: geekster] #5157594
07/11/19 10:12 AM
07/11/19 10:12 AM
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Texas
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I checked Walmart first and it was not cheaper … what did you see it for ?

Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157607
07/11/19 10:27 AM
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Link

Your ebay listing (assuming this is the posting you saw) has 6 gallons (24 quarts) at $90.01, or $3.75/qt. Walmart has:

3- 5 quart jugs (15 quarts) for $56.14-- $3.74/quart (essentially the same)
6- 5 quart jugs (30 quarts) at $108.92-- $3.63/quart (slightly cheaper)

You can go crazy and get 9- 5 quart jugs at $3.56/quart or 12- 5 quart jugs at $3.52/quart. Either way, it's either the same price or cheaper than the e-bay listing and it's probably a little less questionable, ie: making returns, making sure it's newer stock, etc.

Last edited by JustN89; 07/11/19 10:33 AM. Reason: cleaned it up a bit
Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157625
07/11/19 11:03 AM
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Is this Pennzoil syn blend essentially the same (aside from 0w) as this QS D1G2 syn blend? Can you go to a 5w30?? The QS is $2 cheaper..

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Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157655
07/11/19 11:28 AM
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I'd definitely switch to the easier-to-get QS product


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157664
07/11/19 11:37 AM
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Why does Pennzoil make their [censored] so hard to buy?

Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: Linctex] #5157690
07/11/19 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Linctex
I'd definitely switch to the easier-to-get QS product


The QS is sitting on the shelf right now at my local WM for $17 and change or for orders over $35 have it shipped right to your front door for the exact same price.

Otherwise QSUD (on Rollback), ProDS and ST full syn kill it at that price point.

Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: Nick814] #5157692
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Not hard to buy at all unless you are fixated on this one particular product.


2017 Mazda CX5
Havoline Pro DS 0w20
Roki OEM filter.
Re: Pennzoil Gold [Re: 4WD] #5157832
07/11/19 02:19 PM
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1/2 hr N.E. of Detroit
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Originally Posted by 4WD
Is this product discontinued?

My 2018 Silverado calls for 0w20. However it sits (not started) for up to 3 weeks … so thought moving off majority PAO (Mobil 1) would be a good idea for film retention.
Well it was a challenge to find a semi synthetic in this grade and still have a Dexos badge.
Found PG on eBay at $90 for six gallons. Noticed they also had 5w20 and 5w30 for the same price, fast and free shipping … showed the boxes stacked on pallets if anybody is interested


Pennzoil in gallon containers is something I haven't seen in years. I wouldn't buy that old Ebay stuff. You may uncap it and get bit.


19 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4GDI Castrol Edge 5w30 / NAPA Mann-Hummel filter / 6oz Liqui-Moly Treatment
04 Colorado 3.5 Castrol Edge 0W40 Euro & K&N filter
03 Malibu 3.1 QS / Valv Syn 5w30 mix Fram EG filter
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