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2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 #5155949
07/09/19 06:21 PM
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I think it's looking on the up and up. Note filtration comment. I like 7.5K just for convenience of matching OCI with tire rotations, I'm sure it would be fine to 10K.

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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: TiGeo] #5160123
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Was hoping for some commentary from the experts...anyone?


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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: TiGeo] #5160585
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I'm in no way an expert, but I'll chip in.

The engine is still young and have not flushed all the excess metals and contaminates, so metals are still high. TBN is still very high, so this oil would last a long time in your engine.

10k without any problems for sure!

K&N oil or air filter?


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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: jbutch] #5160617
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Originally Posted by jbutch
I'm in no way an expert, but I'll chip in.

The engine is still young and have not flushed all the excess metals and contaminates, so metals are still high. TBN is still very high, so this oil would last a long time in your engine.

10k without any problems for sure!

K&N oil or air filter?


K&N air filter. Yeah, I figure 7.5-ish is where I would start. My main concerns are just that I'm modified with the tune so more boost etc. and was worried about fuel dilution etc. but I may go longer next time.


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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: TiGeo] #5160622
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Originally Posted by TiGeo
Originally Posted by jbutch
I'm in no way an expert, but I'll chip in.

The engine is still young and have not flushed all the excess metals and contaminates, so metals are still high. TBN is still very high, so this oil would last a long time in your engine.

10k without any problems for sure!

K&N oil or air filter?


K&N air filter. Yeah, I figure 7.5-ish is where I would start. My main concerns are just that I'm modified with the tune so more boost etc. and was worried about fuel dilution etc. but I may go longer next time.

You don't want to go any longer than you did . That car is a carbon making machine . I'm not slamming it , I have 2 VW's .

Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: Kjmack] #5160852
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Originally Posted by Kjmack
Originally Posted by TiGeo
Originally Posted by jbutch
I'm in no way an expert, but I'll chip in.

The engine is still young and have not flushed all the excess metals and contaminates, so metals are still high. TBN is still very high, so this oil would last a long time in your engine.

10k without any problems for sure!

K&N oil or air filter?


K&N air filter. Yeah, I figure 7.5-ish is where I would start. My main concerns are just that I'm modified with the tune so more boost etc. and was worried about fuel dilution etc. but I may go longer next time.

You don't want to go any longer than you did . That car is a carbon making machine . I'm not slamming it , I have 2 VW's .


What specifically about pushing the oil longer will lead to higher-than-normal carbon build up?


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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: TiGeo] #5160947
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These cars make alit of carbon while operating , I myself would never go over 5k even with 100% highway miles . The oil isn't dark due to heat in these engines it's loaded up with spot . Carbon is horrible for timing chains . Oil filters are not very effective at grabbing it , they are too small .

Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: Kjmack] #5161044
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Originally Posted by Kjmack
These cars make alit of carbon while operating , I myself would never go over 5k even with 100% highway miles . The oil isn't dark due to heat in these engines it's loaded up with spot . Carbon is horrible for timing chains . Oil filters are not very effective at grabbing it , they are too small .


Somewhat confused. If carbon was an important analyze why isn't it tested for? Sub-5K changes?


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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: TiGeo] #5161273
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Originally Posted by TiGeo
Somewhat confused. If carbon was an important analyze why isn't it tested for? Sub-5K changes?

You cannot test for carbon using ICP, even if you could the oil itself is a hydrocarbon. ICP breaks everything down into the elements so there would be no way to distinguish one carbon atom from another.


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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: TiGeo] #5161295
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I suppose he's just stating that you get a lot more carbon/soot in the oil with DI engines which is a common knowledge - sure. This is why you get the carbon build-up on the intake valves through the re-introduction of oily fumes from the PCV system. Getting a walnut blast type carbon cleaning is going to happen if you drive one of these long enough regardless if you change your oil at 3, 4, 5, or 10K.


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Re: 2018 VW Golf Sportwagen tuned 1.8 TSI K&N 7K OCI LM 5W40 [Re: TiGeo] #5161388
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Originally Posted by TiGeo
I suppose he's just stating that you get a lot more carbon/soot in the oil with DI engines which is a common knowledge - sure. This is why you get the carbon build-up on the intake valves through the re-introduction of oily fumes from the PCV system. Getting a walnut blast type carbon cleaning is going to happen if you drive one of these long enough regardless if you change your oil at 3, 4, 5, or 10K.

I did mention timing chains also

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