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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: OZHSV] #5155560 07/09/19 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by buster
There is one from 2019. You have to make sure the country is USA.


yes of course usa.
the fact is that the MSDS and should not contain complete information about the composition. very approximately


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You want ester in your sump? By a can of this and dump in a cup or two.

When is the last time you changed the oil in the compressor in that 60 year old Coldspot beer fridge in the garage?

POE Baby.

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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: Loma] #5155601 07/09/19 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Loma
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There is one from 2019. You have to make sure the country is USA.


yes of course usa.
the fact is that the MSDS and should not contain complete information about the composition. very approximately


I don't know what to tell you. There is a May 2019 MSDS of AFE. No one said it's an exact composition.

The only M1 oils that appear to use some GTL are AFE/regular M1 (some). The rest are PAO/AN/visom III+. Again, this is just based off of MSDS's which are not formulations.


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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: OZHSV] #5155608 07/09/19 11:46 AM
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As always seems to come up with MSDS, it needs to be reiterated that they exist to convey hazard information to first responders, handlers, shippers and producers, not complete lists of product formulations. I used to write MSDS for a living and I can categorically state that no company will divulge trade secrets in their MSDS. In fact, if you can still make the MSDS truthful for the intended user but deceive your competition then all the better. Also as user Gokhan has correctly pointed out, non-hazardous components such as alkylated naphthalenes will not even appear on an MSDS.

People on here who try and read the tea leaves of an MSDS to discern composition down to the single digit percentages do not know what they are doing.


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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: OZHSV] #5155621 07/09/19 11:56 AM
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Agree, but if a MSDS states "Hazardous Substance(s) or Complex Substance(S) required for discolsure" and within that are lists of base oils, it's safe to assume they are found within the viscosity grade of that given MSDS. Percentages are usually in ranges and they are far from complete but it does give you something.


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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: OZHSV] #5155622 07/09/19 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by buster
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There is one from 2019. You have to make sure the country is USA.


yes of course usa.
the fact is that the MSDS and should not contain complete information about the composition. very approximately


I don't know what to tell you. There is a May 2019 MSDS of AFE. No one said it's an exact composition.

The only M1 oils that appear to use some GTL are AFE/regular M1 (some). The rest are PAO/AN/visom III+. Again, this is just based off of MSDS's which are not formulations.


Thank.
I chose the oil between Mobile 1 0w20 and 5w20. They cost the same. I did the analysis and made sure that the composition of the base oil is different. The price is the same. I bowed in the direction of 0w20


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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: Loma] #5155628 07/09/19 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Loma
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There is one from 2019. You have to make sure the country is USA.


yes of course usa.
the fact is that the MSDS and should not contain complete information about the composition. very approximately


I don't know what to tell you. There is a May 2019 MSDS of AFE. No one said it's an exact composition.

The only M1 oils that appear to use some GTL are AFE/regular M1 (some). The rest are PAO/AN/visom III+. Again, this is just based off of MSDS's which are not formulations.


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I chose the oil between Mobile 1 0w20 and 5w20. They cost the same. I did the analysis and made sure that the composition of the base oil is different. The price is the same. I bowed in the direction of 0w20


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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: pbm] #5155645 07/09/19 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pbm
Back in early March this list was posted by another forum member (Gokhan).

M1 AFE 0W-16: PAO-based

M1 AFE 0W-20: 1/2 PAO-based and some GTL
M1 EP 0W-20: PAO-based
M1 EP HM 0W-20: only a dash of PAO (less than 10%)
M1 HM 0W-20: 1/4 PAO- and 1/4 GTL-based
M1 TP 0W-20: 2/3 PAO and 1/3 Group III
M1 AP 0W-20: PAO-based

M1 5W-20: 2/3 GTL
M1 EP 5W-20: 1/3 PAO, a dash of GTL
M1 EP HM 5W-20: only a dash of PAO (less than 10%)
M1 HM 5W-20: 1/4 GTL, a dash of PAO
M1 TP 5W-20: 1/4 PAO
M1 AP 5W-20: 1/4 PAO

Is this information available for 0w30, 5w30, 0w40 and 5w40 Mobil 1 oils?


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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: DGXR] #5155661 07/09/19 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DGXR
[quote=pbm]...Back in early March this list was posted by another forum member... (Gokhan).



Yes, but even he is guessing since no one here works in the Mobil formulation lab.

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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: MolaKule] #5155713 07/09/19 01:24 PM
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MSDS does not equate , a PCMO Formulation. Far from it.

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MSDS does not equate , a PCMO Formulation. Far from it.


True and just to reiterate, no one that I know is saying that.

An MSDS gives a little indicatioin but that's it.


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Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5155734 07/09/19 01:45 PM
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You want ester in your sump? By a can of this and dump in a cup or two.

When is the last time you changed the oil in the compressor in that 60 year old Coldspot beer fridge in the garage?

POE Baby.

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Is this a joke or serious? Either way hilarious...

Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: Shannow] #5155823 07/09/19 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Shannow
back when m1 tri syn was how it was branded in the States, the third was Alkylated Napthenes, also Gr5

Hey mate, where are you from ?

edit...but this isn't the old tri-syn days...and "using" doesn't imply exclusivity


Hi mate, western Sydney smile. And i agree, it seems to be a play on words doesn't it?



Thanks for all the replies guys, some really interesting stuff in here :), particularly the list showing the makeup of various M1 oils. I've managed to pick up some 5w-30 EP over here in Aus (a local guy imports from the US). Does anyone have any info regarding the makeup of that specific oil? Thanks again, much appreciated.

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Hey mate, where are you from ?


Hi mate, western Sydney smile.


I'm a little west of you in the mountains...
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5124273/1


If it's the truth....it can handle the pressure !!!
Re: Mobil 1 base oil? [Re: Shannow] #5155860 07/09/19 04:37 PM
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Hey mate, where are you from ?


Hi mate, western Sydney smile.


I'm a little west of you in the mountains...
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/5124273/1


I'm at the foot of the mountains..a little east of you wink

love the singlet pic in the snow..always knew you mountains blokes were a strange mob lol..

I'm guessing upper mountains closer to Katoomba..

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