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19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci #5154768
07/08/19 02:24 PM
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2019 Tacoma 2.7l I4. Lifted and on 32in LT Tires. This is mostly highway usage with sustained RPMs in 3500 range for hours on end. The factory fill was dumped with about 100 miles on the unit and replaced with m1 0w40fs and run until 10k. This is M1 0w40fs after its second 10k run. Oil filters are Super Tech with no top off added.

TBN looks good. Hoping some of the numbers are high due to break in. TBN looks money and it looks like the m1 held up great. You guys think i have a winner here?

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Last edited by Doublehaul; 07/08/19 02:27 PM.

2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5154981
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If you consider a voided warranty a winner, then yes.


2018 Toyota Tacoma SR5 / Mobil 1 AFE 0W-20 / OEM filter
2010 Toyota Camry LE / Mobil 1 AFE 0W-20 / OEM filter
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5154987
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No one has ever posted language on here from either their owner’s manual nor their warranty booklet that states oil grade is a condition of warranty.


1994 BMW 530i, 242K
1996 Honda Accord, 277K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 418K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 281K
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5154999
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Originally Posted by Doublehaul
2019 Tacoma 2.7l I4. Lifted and on 32in LT Tires. This is mostly highway usage with sustained RPMs in 3500 range for hours on end. The factory fill was dumped with about 100 miles on the unit and replaced with m1 0w40fs and run until 10k. This is M1 0w40fs after its second 10k run. Oil filters are Super Tech with no top off added.

TBN looks good. Hoping some of the numbers are high due to break in. TBN looks money and it looks like the m1 held up great. You guys think i have a winner here?


Thank you for the report.

I will offer a counterpoint FWIW.

I have driven two different 2TR FE's for a grand total of 870k miles.
Local deliveries of small parcels, light pallets and such has been on the front burner for me. Like you, I put a lot of freeway miles on my Taco.

TBN does not concern me as much as you, with all the freeway miles. TBN is not linear. My personal preference is a carefully selected lower viscosity oil.

Watch for the proverbial piston ring coking and valve stem seal wear as you approach 200k miles, with the accompanying oil consumption.

Enjoy your sled, Sir !


2018 Tacoma 2.7L
EDGE HM 0W20
@ 131k miles
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5155000
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Read the bottom paragraph.

[Linked Image]


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual

Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: skyactiv] #5155003
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Which again states that the viscosity is recommended. If 0W-40 damages the engine then it’s a problem, yes. But it will not.

Therefore whether or not it is recommended it will not void the warranty.


1994 BMW 530i, 242K
1996 Honda Accord, 277K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 418K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 281K
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5155006
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Why are you running 32s on a truck that does mostly highway?

Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: kschachn] #5155025
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Which again states that the viscosity is recommended. If 0W-40 damages the engine then it’s a problem, yes. But it will not.

Therefore whether or not it is recommended it will not void the warranty.


Bottom line, it’s foolish to put your warranty at risk because you think you know more than the engineers who designed the vehicle.


2018 Toyota Tacoma SR5 / Mobil 1 AFE 0W-20 / OEM filter
2010 Toyota Camry LE / Mobil 1 AFE 0W-20 / OEM filter
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Starman2112] #5155046
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Oh no, I don’t think that I know more than the engineers. I just haven’t seen a warranty statement yet that says if you use a grade that’s not recommended it will void your warranty. I do think there’s a lot of fear mongering going on in regards to that however.


1994 BMW 530i, 242K
1996 Honda Accord, 277K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 418K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 281K
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5155068
07/08/19 07:21 PM
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Lexus just back from a 500mi. trip today purrs like a kitten 20mpg. on the I with air on...CJ 15/40 HDEO all loaded up with sulfur, phosphorus , zincs and what not all. How could something so right be wrong?


05 Lexus GX470 167k
640:1 TCW-3
5/30 10/30 5/40 15/40
Michelin Latitude

06 4Runner SR5 150k
640:1 TCW-3
Citgo 10/30 conv XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Direct_Rejection] #5155079
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Originally Posted by Direct_Rejection
Originally Posted by Doublehaul
2019 Tacoma 2.7l I4. Lifted and on 32in LT Tires. This is mostly highway usage with sustained RPMs in 3500 range for hours on end. The factory fill was dumped with about 100 miles on the unit and replaced with m1 0w40fs and run until 10k. This is M1 0w40fs after its second 10k run. Oil filters are Super Tech with no top off added.

TBN looks good. Hoping some of the numbers are high due to break in. TBN looks money and it looks like the m1 held up great. You guys think i have a winner here?


Thank you for the report.

I will offer a counterpoint FWIW.

I have driven two different 2TR FE's for a grand total of 870k miles.
Local deliveries of small parcels, light pallets and such has been on the front burner for me. Like you, I put a lot of freeway miles on my Taco.

TBN does not concern me as much as you, with all the freeway miles. TBN is not linear. My personal preference is a carefully selected lower viscosity oil.

Watch for the proverbial piston ring coking and valve stem seal wear as you approach 200k miles, with the accompanying oil consumption.

Enjoy your sled, Sir !



He'll likely avoid those issues using 0W40.


05 Lexus GX470 167k
640:1 TCW-3
5/30 10/30 5/40 15/40
Michelin Latitude

06 4Runner SR5 150k
640:1 TCW-3
Citgo 10/30 conv XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5155102
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What if the op took a road trip to a different country where Toyota spec's 20W50? Uh oh!


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30

Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Jason_Michaels] #5155136
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Doublehaul Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Starman2112
If you consider a voided warranty a winner, then yes.

Originally Posted by Jason_Michaels
Why are you running 32s on a truck that does mostly highway?



Allow me to retort...

My owners manual makes specific allowances for thicker oil in conditions of extended highway use. Your blanket statement is uninformed and false

Second...fair question. The more logical reason is that i live on the outer fringes of society. I do a fair amount of off roading for recreation and travel in horrible road and weather conditions for my job...also including a bunch of off road use.

Another reason is that I like they way it looks. It had very little impact on my fuel economy. The truck is geared with 4:30s...was slow before and slow after. The 2.7 is perhaps the most durable gasoline engine in production however. My previous truck a 95 Tacoma with a 2.7 went over 500,000 miles with 32s and ran 5w or 15w40 for its entire life.


2019 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 TRD
2019 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD*

Mobil 1 0w40


The specs on the back are more important than the label on the front
Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5155150
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the ONLY reason watery xxw20 are recommended is the government pushing CAFE ratings + once warranty is gone they won't buy a new one!!

Re: 19 Tacoma 2.7 M1 0w40 10k oci [Re: Doublehaul] #5155233
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right, I'll run 5/30 in the bitter cold otherwise give me the heavy luxury grades in warm weather, like a man.

Last edited by dblshock; 07/09/19 12:22 AM.

05 Lexus GX470 167k
640:1 TCW-3
5/30 10/30 5/40 15/40
Michelin Latitude

06 4Runner SR5 150k
640:1 TCW-3
Citgo 10/30 conv XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
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