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2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice #5151685 07/04/19 10:42 PM
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Wife and I bought a 2019 Honda Pilot EX-L and it now has 3,400 miles on it. The maintenance minder is still at 70% oil life left. I'm guessing with the driving she does, the maintenance minder will show 15% just short of 10k miles....this is what our CR-V did.

I'm contemplating dumping the factory fill oil and filter around 5k miles. If my memory is correct, this is what I did on her CR-V. Any opinions on whether or not to run the factory fill until the maintenance minder drops to 15% or change it half way through?

Finally, the local dealer gave me my first 2 oil changes free and they use Castrol 0w20. I'm sure it is a bulk oil but any thoughts on it?

Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: klt1986] #5151721 07/04/19 11:58 PM
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You will typically hear two opinions on this subject. Run factory fill to 15% as Honda uses a special break in oil, or dump early to remove break in material. Maybe 7500 miles would be a good compromise?


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Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: gregk24] #5151845 07/05/19 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gregk24
You will typically hear two opinions on this subject. Run factory fill to 15% as Honda uses a special break in oil, or dump early to remove break in material. Maybe 7500 miles would be a good compromise?


Not a bad idea running to 7500 miles. I was actually hoping the MM would be about 40-50% at the current mileage but it is almost identical to what her CR-V was.

Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: klt1986] #5151854 07/05/19 06:50 AM
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On my wife’s 2016 Exl i chnaged FF at around 4K. After that 4-5K OCI with different 0w20 - good UOA on all of them with really no difference. Not using any oil and piston slap on cold is still there


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Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: klt1986] #5151859 07/05/19 06:55 AM
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What does the Honda owner's manual say on this subject? Any particular info w/r to break-in and the factory fill? I would just do what it calls for. 7500 is such a good number to go with b/c it works with tire rotations.


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Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: klt1986] #5151874 07/05/19 07:05 AM
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Honda says leave it for full OCI or down to 15% on the MM.

More importantly is to check it periodically for oil consumption during first OCI. Then head over to Piloteers and read about disabling the VCM grin


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Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: klt1986] #5151885 07/05/19 07:31 AM
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Honda does use a “break in” oil and recommends the factory-fill oil remain in the engine until the first scheduled maintenance interval to ensure proper break in. Now there will be a lot of opinions about changing the “break in” oil early but I say follow what Honda recommends. I have owned several Hondas and currently have the Accord with the same 3.5 V6. I kept the break in oil until the MM told me it was time to change and use the MM to let me know when an oil change is due. I have done oil analysis and the oil still shows good and could have went past what the MM recommends. There were VCM issues in the past with the 3.5 but that has been resolved with current V6s. I say use the free oil changes but make sure they use 0W20 synthetic like the Castrol and they don’t try to sneak in a 5W20 dino or blend. Also, make sure you use top tier gas. When I say top tier gas, I do not mean octane rating. Top tier gas is gas that has additional detergents that exceeds EPA recommendations. There is a website that you can find certified gas stations that sell top tier gas. Exxon and Shell are two popular gas stations that sell top tier gas. Using top tier gas really helps keeping the engine clean, especially with Honda’s VCM.

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Our '06 Ody had the VCM and it was the cause of multiple very expensive replacement motor mounts and lots of vibration - terrible design (assume current is much better) to save a tiny bit of gas.


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Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: klt1986] #5151894 07/05/19 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by klt1986
Wife and I bought a 2019 Honda Pilot EX-L and it now has 3,400 miles on it. The maintenance minder is still at 70% oil life left. I'm guessing with the driving she does, the maintenance minder will show 15% just short of 10k miles....this is what our CR-V did.

I'm contemplating dumping the factory fill oil and filter around 5k miles. If my memory is correct, this is what I did on her CR-V. Any opinions on whether or not to run the factory fill until the maintenance minder drops to 15% or change it half way through?

Finally, the local dealer gave me my first 2 oil changes free and they use Castrol 0w20. I'm sure it is a bulk oil but any thoughts on it?

What was the age & miles on the former CRV? Why did you trade it-in?


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Re: 2019 Honda Pilot OCI and Oil Choice [Re: klt1986] #5151895 07/05/19 07:47 AM
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I follow the MM on my Pilot and use Mobil 1 0w20 AFE. Have since new. Don't know if the VCM issues have really been resolved or not, so I use the VCM Muzzler.


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Originally Posted by parshisa
On my wife’s 2016 Exl i chnaged FF at around 4K. After that 4-5K OCI with different 0w20 - good UOA on all of them with really no difference. Not using any oil and piston slap on cold is still there


Did you encounter piston slap from the start? I have not noticed any with ours.

Originally Posted by TiGeo
What does the Honda owner's manual say on this subject? Any particular info w/r to break-in and the factory fill? I would just do what it calls for. 7500 is such a good number to go with b/c it works with tire rotations.


Good question. I will check tonight as I have really not thought about it too much since it is new.

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Honda says leave it for full OCI or down to 15% on the MM.

More importantly is to check it periodically for oil consumption during first OCI. Then head over to Piloteers and read about disabling the VCM grin


So far the oil level has remained at the full mark.

Originally Posted by Eddddd
Honda does use a “break in” oil and recommends the factory-fill oil remain in the engine until the first scheduled maintenance interval to ensure proper break in. Now there will be a lot of opinions about changing the “break in” oil early but I say follow what Honda recommends. I have owned several Hondas and currently have the Accord with the same 3.5 V6. I kept the break in oil until the MM told me it was time to change and use the MM to let me know when an oil change is due. I have done oil analysis and the oil still shows good and could have went past what the MM recommends. There were VCM issues in the past with the 3.5 but that has been resolved with current V6s. I say use the free oil changes but make sure they use 0W20 synthetic like the Castrol and they don’t try to sneak in a 5W20 dino or blend. Also, make sure you use top tier gas. When I say top tier gas, I do not mean octane rating. Top tier gas is gas that has additional detergents that exceeds EPA recommendations. There is a website that you can find certified gas stations that sell top tier gas. Exxon and Shell are two popular gas stations that sell top tier gas. Using top tier gas really helps keeping the engine clean, especially with Honda’s VCM.


Do you recall the mileage when the MM got to 15%? I have instructed the wife to use Exxon/Mobil, Shell, or BP as they are all top tier gas stations in our area. We have run a couple tanks of Kroger gas through it. That was due to having fuel points worth $1 off per gallon. Getting 35 gallons of gas at $1.32 or so per gallon is worth it once a month. I have read that some Kroger gas is top tier and others stations it is not....depends on who the supplier is.

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yeah, just on cold engine. it is unaudible at idle rpm but very noticeable at 1000-1200 rpm range. I checked another brand new pilot dealership had on the lot and it sounded the same. check your and see if it does the same lol


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Originally Posted by klt1986
Wife and I bought a 2019 Honda Pilot EX-L and it now has 3,400 miles on it. The maintenance minder is still at 70% oil life left. I'm guessing with the driving she does, the maintenance minder will show 15% just short of 10k miles....this is what our CR-V did.

I'm contemplating dumping the factory fill oil and filter around 5k miles. If my memory is correct, this is what I did on her CR-V. Any opinions on whether or not to run the factory fill until the maintenance minder drops to 15% or change it half way through?

Finally, the local dealer gave me my first 2 oil changes free and they use Castrol 0w20. I'm sure it is a bulk oil but any thoughts on it?


What was the age & miles on the former CRV? Why did you trade it-in?


2008 Honda CR-V EX with just under 200k miles. Thought about keeping it but that would have been 5 vehicles plus a work vehicle in our driveway. Dealer offered a very fair trade in price after we had agreed upon a price for the Pilot. They were close enough that it was not worth the headache of dealing with the tire kickers.

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Honda does not use special "break in" oil. The break in oil is moly rich from the assembly lube and they recommend it stay in the full OCI.

I kept my Ridgeline break in oil in to about 7500 and changed the filter as well even though honda calls for it to stay in another OCI.

I slapped a filter mag on at about 500 miles and when I removed it I cut the filter open open - it was filled with all kinds of detritus Im happy to have gotten out of the system.


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I know the feeling. We used to keep three vehicles - then both daughters had their own vehicle. That made (5) also. This went-on for 3-4 years.
It was a pain sometimes, because our driveway is narrow and no turnaround in it. So at least (2) were always on the street..... sometimes 4.....lol


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