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The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? #5144147 06/25/19 10:24 PM
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Does anyone know which oil is the Mopar SAE 5W-20 (Middle East Version)? I know that it’s provided by SHELL since SHELL have a factory for oils in Oman, but which SHELL is it? The label doesn’t mention anything about the type of oil used if it’s Synthetic or Blend or Conventional oil? The dealer claims that it’s a fully Synthetic oil 100% but why the bottle doesn’t mention anything about it? Isn’t it supposed to be marketing features to write down fully synthetic oil like other brands do?

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I tried to contact SHELL to confirm which type of oil do they supply for Mopar but couldn’t’ get any respond.
I found that SHELL Helix Ultra has some similar approvals and it’s fully Synthetic but they are no proof that it’s the same oil.

This is why I’m thinking of switching to Liqy-Moly 5W-20 SPECIAL TEC AA


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Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: John344] #5144164 06/25/19 11:08 PM
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Liqui Moly is a much better oil than Mopar any day. I would choose that over it if it was my vehicle.


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Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: John344] #5144176 06/25/19 11:57 PM
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Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: John344] #5144184 06/26/19 12:09 AM
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I you hadn't already figured it out, the Mopar parts# is on the label (68218890UA)... like you, I couldn't find anything on the net after a couple mins of looking, stating whether it was conventional or synthetic. I did find this SDS 👇from Mopar with that part# but I'm not an expert on reading these things, especially oil related one's. Maybe there is/isn't anything in there that helps you...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.kwparts.com/media/1718/68218891gb_eng.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi0gr7QrIbjAhVIrp4KHeCTBxwQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1QEJvrgS7t1LOVyjDkAaoA

Looks like Chrysler Canada makes both a dino and full syn 5w20...i have no clue if or how this relates to your oil. Just thought I'd share what I additionally found. (I could not locate anything in the API db for Chrysler middle east, maybe I was doing it wrong?)
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Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: John344] #5144194 06/26/19 12:18 AM
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Given the high temps in your area, would a 5w30 or even heavier oil be a good alternative ?

Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: 71Chevyguy] #5144196 06/26/19 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 71Chevyguy
Liqui Moly is a much better oil than Mopar any day. I would choose that over it if it was my vehicle.


You do realize that Mopar doesn't actually produce their own oils. They are pretty heavily involved with Pennzoil right now but who knows who produced that particular quart featured. I think it isn't synthetic or it would say so.


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Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: rubberchicken] #5144207 06/26/19 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rubberchicken
Given the high temps in your area, would a 5w30 or even heavier oil be a good alternative ?


I would stay away from x20 in your area. I would use a good 10Wx30 or 10Wx40 or even higher ... Something with higher hths. 5Wx30 is the lowest I go if I have to.

Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: John344] #5144210 06/26/19 12:57 AM
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https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.dealers-mopar.com/resources/pdf/chemical/chemical-catalog.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjArJieuobjAhXDZc0KHR4ID3MQFjAOegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw24ASksqkgKIZyR8eZjzQpc

Looks like anything that's labeled Max pro + is full synthetic. Max pro doesn't specify, so I'm guess it's either conventional or synthetic blend


2016 Dodge Dart GT 2.4 QSUD 5W20 (mine)
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Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5144211 06/26/19 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
I you hadn't already figured it out, the Mopar parts# is on the label (68218890UA)... like you, I couldn't find anything on the net after a couple mins of looking, stating whether it was conventional or synthetic. I did find this SDS 👇from Mopar with that part# but I'm not an expert on reading these things, especially oil related one's. Maybe there is/isn't anything in there that helps you...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.kwparts.com/media/1718/68218891gb_eng.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi0gr7QrIbjAhVIrp4KHeCTBxwQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1QEJvrgS7t1LOVyjDkAaoA

Looks like Chrysler Canada makes both a dino and full syn 5w20...i have no clue if or how this relates to your oil. Just thought I'd share what I additionally found. (I could not locate anything in the API db for Chrysler middle east, maybe I was doing it wrong?)
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Exactly, I tried searching online and contacting them but I didn't get any information or answer. Not even a SPEC sheet available online.

Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: rubberchicken] #5144213 06/26/19 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rubberchicken
Given the high temps in your area, would a 5w30 or even heavier oil be a good alternative ?


I would love to use a thicker oil but the manual state clearly that the 0w-20 is used for all temps. The car is jeep GC.

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Originally Posted by sloinker
Originally Posted by 71Chevyguy
Liqui Moly is a much better oil than Mopar any day. I would choose that over it if it was my vehicle.


You do realize that Mopar doesn't actually produce their own oils. They are pretty heavily involved with Pennzoil right now but who knows who produced that particular quart featured. I think it isn't synthetic or it would say so.



Yeah, this is what I'm thinking too if it's Synthetic they would write it all over the bottle, but the dealer is telling me that it is and they use it for a long time and it's set for 10,000 KM intervals.

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Originally Posted by 07hemi
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.dealers-mopar.com/resources/pdf/chemical/chemical-catalog.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjArJieuobjAhXDZc0KHR4ID3MQFjAOegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw24ASksqkgKIZyR8eZjzQpc

Looks like anything that's labeled Max pro + is full synthetic. Max pro doesn't specify, so I'm guess it's either conventional or synthetic blend

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I'm doubting it's convetial but why would they allow it to stay in your car for long intervarls? every 10,000 KM? The Middle East is considered a Severe climate and usually, have special services especially for the oil because it's hot and dusty.

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Originally Posted by John344
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Given the high temps in your area, would a 5w30 or even heavier oil be a good alternative ?


I would love to use a thicker oil but the manual state clearly that the 0w-20 is used for all temps. The car is jeep GC.


You have the v6 then? Assuming you’re not driving it like you stole it, 0w20 will be perfectly fine in it. V6 has a liquid to liquid oil cooler.


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Re: The Mysterious Mopar SAE 5W-20? [Re: Skippy722] #5144232 06/26/19 01:52 AM
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Given the high temps in your area, would a 5w30 or even heavier oil be a good alternative ?


I would love to use a thicker oil but the manual state clearly that the 0w-20 is used for all temps. The car is jeep GC.


You have the v6 then? Assuming you’re not driving it like you stole it, 0w20 will be perfectly fine in it. V6 has a liquid to liquid oil cooler.


Yes, indeed it's a 2018 V6 and the oil temps usually around 90-100 Celsius often 95 Celsius. I drive it very normally and I don't tow.

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Originally Posted by John344


Yes, indeed it's a 2018 V6 and the oil temps usually around 90-100 Celsius often 95 Celsius. I drive it very normally and I don't tow.


I’ve got 2 of those v6’s, though yours is the upgraded version (PSU/PUG) of the Pentastar. Hottest I’ve ever seen my oil was 212F, 100C, on the van. My 300 likes to sit around 170F-185F, ~76C-85C. Hottest I’ve seen the 300 was 200F, 93C.

But I run 0w20 in both of them, and I drive them a little harder than most.


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