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Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive #5143693
06/25/19 12:10 PM
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Conv vs Syn
Goes over some Saab UOA
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Re: Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive [Re: wemay] #5143940
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No surprises. Reinforces my plan to use my $10 VWB coupons (change and filter) and go with a 5k oci.


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Re: Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive [Re: csandste] #5143978
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Originally Posted by csandste
No surprises. Reinforces my plan to use my $10 VWB coupons (change and filter) and go with a 5k oci.



It's crossed my mind many a time.


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Re: Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive [Re: wemay] #5143995
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I wonder what the oil conspiracy ones who say conventional 5w20 is destroying the Hemi have to say? Everytime I mention Chrysler states in manual that conventional 5w20 is recommended and synthetic oil is ok. I agree with Blackstone and Chrysler on this subject.

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Re: Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive [Re: wemay] #5144155
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What's so ironic is that my best uoa was with Castrol GTX.


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Re: Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive [Re: tiger862] #5144162
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Originally Posted by tiger862
I wonder what the oil conspiracy ones who say conventional 5w20 is destroying the Hemi have to say? Everytime I mention Chrysler states in manual that conventional 5w20 is recommended and synthetic oil is ok. I agree with Blackstone and Chrysler on this subject.


I was to late to edit. Everytime i mention Chrysler states in manual that conventional 5w20 is recommended and synthetic oil is ok people seem to argue that a manufacturer in 2019 don't recommend conventional anymore.


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Re: Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive [Re: wemay] #5144354
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I got a kick out of watching the host's expressions. He seemed displeased that Ryan was not extolling the benefits of some super-duper brand of synthetic oil that everyone could run-out and buy and feel good about.

Originally Posted by wemay
Originally Posted by csandste
No surprises. Reinforces my plan to use my $10 VWB coupons (change and filter) and go with a 5k oci.


It's crossed my mind many a time.


In all honesty, I have never considered extended OCIs given the type of vehicle I have and driving I do. For me, the risks seem higher and the primary benefit is spending (maybe) 30-50% less on oil/filter maintenance. Since I enjoy doing my own oil changes, I'll splurge on that extra $27/year. Also, I maintain 5 family cars and tend to use syn-blend oil instead of full synthetic.

Maybe for some people, it makes more sense to extend OCIs. It's an individual decision... In my case, some family cars get 3 OCs/year and some get 2. It's way easier for me to schedule it this way rather than track individual odometers.


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Blackstone prevented destruction of my engine via coolant contamination from a cracked head. Their service is invaluable.

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IIRC-there was a very knowledgeable former GM engine development engineer (bobinsky?) on the BITOG forums that got banned and all posts removed. He was of the opinion synthetic oils are of no benefit/waste of money and are only really useful if oil temps exceed 300 F (racing or track days). Interesting reading.

His opinion appears to be in line what this Blackstone video is suggesting about conventional vs. synthetic oils.


Hope I don't get banned for bringing this up LOL

Re: Ryan Stark of Blackstone Labs speaks w/ SaabTalkLive [Re: willbur] #5144733
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Originally Posted by willbur
IIRC-there was a very knowledgeable former GM engine development engineer (bobinsky?) on the BITOG forums that got banned and all posts removed. He was of the opinion synthetic oils are of no benefit/waste of money and are only really useful if oil temps exceed 300 F (racing or track days). Interesting reading.

His opinion appears to be in line what this Blackstone video is suggesting about conventional vs. synthetic oils.


Hope I don't get banned for bringing this up LOL


why would someone like that get banned from this site?


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