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Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles #5143227
06/24/19 09:57 PM
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This is an Mahle 180713CJ2 filter from my 2018 Santa Fe. 14,983 on vehicle, 4,683 miles on filter.
I know Mahle is the OEM filter for Hyundai/Kia, but it has a different number than OEM. This filter was put in by the selling dealer (an Acura dealer).
Oil was Delo XLS 10w-30 that was in for 2,998 miles (changed whatever dealer oil was in there ~12,000 miles, but left the filter in).

Fiber end cap:
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Plastic end cap:
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Slightly wide spacing at the seam, but the rest was great:
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All cut apart, I tried to tear it apart with just my hands, but not happening:
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There were some orange bits in the media, maybe some gasket sealer??
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Little closer pics:
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Put in some Pennzoil Platinum 10w-30 and another OEM Mahle filter:
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Average of 19 mph, and 71.5 hours on the oil:
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I also screwed up this change, something I have never done.
I installed an EZ-Drain (similar to Fumoto) this change, and forgot to close the valve, I had added 5.5 of 6 qts when I realized what happened.
Well, at least the engine got a nice internal rinse. Luckily it was some clearance oil with rebate, so was only ~$5 of oil wasted, but still mad at myself.



2018 Santa Fe: PP 10W-30/OEM/5k
2018 Soul: Mobil Super 5w-20/OEM/5k
2012 xB: M1 EP 0W-20/CQ Blue/5k
2002 F150: Magnatec 5W-20/Bosch D+/1yr
1994 VT1100: Peak 15W-40/Bosch D+/1yr
Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5143251
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Does Hyundai spec 10w-30 for this engine?


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Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #5143380
06/25/19 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Does Hyundai spec 10w-30 for this engine?

Does my LC (Toyota) spec 5w40 (10w40 was my previous fill) ???
Does my Yaris (Toyota) spec VW 504/507 oil???

Dont be (too) funny dude smile

Last edited by Kamele0N; 06/25/19 04:58 AM.

2008 Toyota Yaris 1ND-TV 1.4 D4-D Tech9 5W30 C3 VW 504/507
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Elf Evolution NF900 5W40
Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #5143398
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Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Does Hyundai spec 10w-30 for this engine?


Hyundai allows 10w30 down to zero for both gdi and non gdi.

Filter looks ok to me, no big red flags that I can see and looks like it held up well. My Sedona uses cartridge filters. The OE's are pretty well made and decently priced @ about $10'ish, sometimes cheaper.. it's a bit cheaper to use aftermarket from Fram, Wix, Champ Labs and Ecogard - I've used all of them at some point without issues. They're all constructed very similar to the OE (pleat count, inner O-rings).

If I'm not mistaken Mahle is OE supplier, yes? I know M+H Korea makes the OE for mine.

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Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5143412
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Yes.....to battle valve deposits (and for better performances ) in their (T)GDi engines....


2008 Toyota Yaris 1ND-TV 1.4 D4-D Tech9 5W30 C3 VW 504/507
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Elf Evolution NF900 5W40
Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5143434
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Nice work OP. Thanks for the great pics. Your Santa Fe will serve you well for many years.


2018 KIA Sportage LX 2.4 AWD:
Now: QSAD 5W-20, PH9688
Next: ST Syn 5W-30, ST9688

2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T:
Now: EDGE 5W-40, OE
Next: M1HM 10W-30, PH9688
Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5143449
06/25/19 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Does Hyundai spec 10w-30 for this engine?

5w-30 is the “recommended” and on the oil cap, but 10w-30 and 5w-40 are also on the list.

It is rarely below 32F here, never below 20F, so a 10w is just fine.

Originally Posted by wemay
Nice work OP. Thanks for the great pics. Your Santa Fe will serve you well for many years.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter

...
If I'm not mistaken Mahle is OE supplier, yes? I know M+H Korea makes the OE for mine.

Yup, Mahle seems to be a solid filter. I was going to buy an Ultra, but they were not making them till just recently. I bought 4 OEM a while back for < $30.


2018 Santa Fe: PP 10W-30/OEM/5k
2018 Soul: Mobil Super 5w-20/OEM/5k
2012 xB: M1 EP 0W-20/CQ Blue/5k
2002 F150: Magnatec 5W-20/Bosch D+/1yr
1994 VT1100: Peak 15W-40/Bosch D+/1yr
Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5143808
06/25/19 02:20 PM
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Weird that Mahle is the OEM for these while Mann and Hummel Korea are the OEM for spin ons.
Nice filter none the less, plan on using Mahle spin ons I got for cheap on RockAuto for my truck.


2018 RAM 1500 SLT 5.7L HEMI 19K
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Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5144189
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Originally Posted by blupupher
Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Does Hyundai spec 10w-30 for this engine?

5w-30 is the “recommended” and on the oil cap, but 10w-30 and 5w-40 are also on the list.

It is rarely below 32F here, never below 20F, so a 10w is just fine.

I knew this was a thing on the older Hyundai's. I'm glad to see they are still doing it!


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Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5144258
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Originally Posted by blupupher

Yup, Mahle seems to be a solid filter. I was going to buy an Ultra, but they were not making them till just recently. I bought 4 OEM a while back for < $30.


Not a bad price for 4 filters given how well constructed they appear to be.👍 You could easily do worse.

Nice ride btw, I'm jealous 😉.. quick question, you said you went with the EzDrain...how do you like it? Pro's/Con's?? I've been kicking around the idea of using one of those quick drain plugs, when you've got a bad back like I do... the less time spent under the car, the better. I haven't pulled the trigger on getting one because of my fear that it would get knocked open by something the car kicks up. Do you see that as a potential issue with the EzDrain???

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Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5144463
06/26/19 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter

Nice ride btw, I'm jealous 😉.. quick question, you said you went with the EzDrain...how do you like it? Pro's/Con's?? I've been kicking around the idea of using one of those quick drain plugs, when you've got a bad back like I do... the less time spent under the car, the better. I haven't pulled the trigger on getting one because of my fear that it would get knocked open by something the car kicks up. Do you see that as a potential issue with the EzDrain???

Thanks. Wife loves it, and since it is hers, that’s all that matters.

I decided to try the EZ-Drain this time instead of the Fumoto because it was a few bucks cheaper. They are very similar design, I think the biggest difference is material (I think the Fumoto is brass, EZ-Drain is stainless?).
On the Santa Fe, the drain hole faces backwards and the valve is completely protected and plenty of access to the valve lever. The lever has a detent in it to prevent accidental opening, and Fumoto sells a little clip that can go over that for double the protection.
You just need to make sure that the vehicle you put it on has a drain hole in a place that does not expose the valve to the possibility of getting broken off.
I can take a pic of mine later if you want (as well as the other vehicles I have them on, one of which is borderline too exposed.


2018 Santa Fe: PP 10W-30/OEM/5k
2018 Soul: Mobil Super 5w-20/OEM/5k
2012 xB: M1 EP 0W-20/CQ Blue/5k
2002 F150: Magnatec 5W-20/Bosch D+/1yr
1994 VT1100: Peak 15W-40/Bosch D+/1yr
Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5144620
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Brass construction with nickel plating for the body with the ball being chrome plated.


2008 Jeep Patriot Sport FWD 2.4L 246K M1 5w20 HM M1-113

2000 Ford Expedition AWD 4.6L Cleveland 298K STHMFS 5W30 FL-820S

1998 Dodge Grand Caravan FWD 3.8L V-6 160K STHMFS 5W30 Fram PH16 OCOD!!!

Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: blupupher] #5144709
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Originally Posted by blupupher
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter

Nice ride btw, I'm jealous 😉.. quick question, you said you went with the EzDrain...how do you like it? Pro's/Con's?? I've been kicking around the idea of using one of those quick drain plugs, when you've got a bad back like I do... the less time spent under the car, the better. I haven't pulled the trigger on getting one because of my fear that it would get knocked open by something the car kicks up. Do you see that as a potential issue with the EzDrain???

Thanks. Wife loves it, and since it is hers, that’s all that matters.

I decided to try the EZ-Drain this time instead of the Fumoto because it was a few bucks cheaper. They are very similar design, I think the biggest difference is material (I think the Fumoto is brass, EZ-Drain is stainless?).
On the Santa Fe, the drain hole faces backwards and the valve is completely protected and plenty of access to the valve lever. The lever has a detent in it to prevent accidental opening, and Fumoto sells a little clip that can go over that for double the protection.
You just need to make sure that the vehicle you put it on has a drain hole in a place that does not expose the valve to the possibility of getting broken off.
I can take a pic of mine later if you want (as well as the other vehicles I have them on, one of which is borderline too exposed.


That would be awesome. Thanks 👍

Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #5144882
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Originally Posted by FordBroncoVWJeta
Does Hyundai spec 10w-30 for this engine?


For my 2017 Hyundai Elantra with the 2.0, 10w30 is listed in the owner’s manual as acceptable for temps above 0*. I’ve been running 5w30 for the past year and a half, but will give the 10w30 a go at my next oil change.

L8R,
Matt

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Re: Mahle 180713CJ2 (OEM Hyundai) C&P, 4,683 miles [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5145106
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter

That would be awesome. Thanks 👍

Here is the Santa Fe:
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This is the Scion xB. It looks very exposed, but really is not:
[Linked Image]

Here is my F150. This is most exposed of the 3 I have. Since it never goes off road or anything like that, I am not worried about it.
[Linked Image]

The little lever does sit below the front sub-frame and could be an issue for some.
[Linked Image]


2018 Santa Fe: PP 10W-30/OEM/5k
2018 Soul: Mobil Super 5w-20/OEM/5k
2012 xB: M1 EP 0W-20/CQ Blue/5k
2002 F150: Magnatec 5W-20/Bosch D+/1yr
1994 VT1100: Peak 15W-40/Bosch D+/1yr
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