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Jeep Renegade MTF Alternatives? #5142769 06/24/19 11:28 AM
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So my youngest son came home with a low mileage 2015 Jeep Renegade 4x4 with the 1.4L and a 6spd manual transmission. I can't seem to find out a lot about the transmission. The manual calls for MOPAR C Series Manual & Dual Dry Clutch Transmission Fluid. The must think a lot of it because runs about $23 per quart. I see it is 75W and GL4. Is there something so special about the synchros that it requires this special fluid?


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Re: Jeep Renegade MTF Alternatives? [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #5142782 06/24/19 11:38 AM
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I would investigate these fluids as replacements:

https://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g3431.pdf

https://www.redlineoil.com/Content/files/tech/DCTF_PROD_INFO.pdf

It is a specialized fluid so it won't be the same price as other MTF/ATF replacement fluids..

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Re: Jeep Renegade MTF Alternatives? [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #5142791 06/24/19 11:49 AM
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On the Dart forums (the Dart calls for the same fluid), they are running a 75W gear oil. I won't go as far as to recommend it, but it's worth giving a read. Link


Clarification: They recommend a 75W GL-4 fluid.

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Re: Jeep Renegade MTF Alternatives? [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #5142810 06/24/19 12:09 PM
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I almost forgot Ford's FML-XT-11-QDC DCT fluid which is another DTC fluid option.

I would NOT use any GL-5 Hypoid Differential fluid under any circumstances.


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Aftermarket trans fluid has to be the best value upgrade on any stick car. I'd never run OEM unless it was that magical Ford synthetic MTF. That what I would put in it if I were your son, if it meets the specs.


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Amalie DCT fluid smile

Get it by the case of 12 on Amazon for $6/qt

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That is abit odd a MT that requires DCT fluid?


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Re: Jeep Renegade MTF Alternatives? [Re: mattwithcats] #5143523 06/25/19 07:53 AM
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I would NOT recommend using this fluid since it is way too thick (17.4 cSt) verses 7 to 8 cSt for DCT fluids.

This Mobil Delvac fluid's application is for Heavy Duty truck transmissions, not for auto, SUV, or light truck transmissions.

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Re: Jeep Renegade MTF Alternatives? [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #5144735 06/26/19 01:14 PM
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Thanks everyone for the responses.

What's wierd is tha Amsoil and Redline have no recommendation for this application. There are some that are using RP synchromesh, I did see on Reline's web site that they have a low viscosity MTF that has a recommendation for Dodge/Fiat BOT 350 M3. I googled and this came up:

http://www.carquestprofessionals.co...id%20Application%20Guide%20%206.6.13.pdf

According to that guide, Dodge/Fiat BOT 350 M3 equates to Mopar 68092630AA which is the above mentioned MOPAR C Series Manual & Dual Dry Clutch Transmission Fluid.

I'll contact Redline to see if they can provide and insight.


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Originally Posted by MolaKule
I almost forgot Ford's FML-XT-11-QDC DCT fluid which is another DTC fluid option.

I would NOT use any GL-5 Hypoid Differential fluid under any circumstances.


It looks like this is the part number for the WSS-M2C200-D2 spec? If so would the RAVENOL MTF-3 SAE 75W be a good alternative?

Here's the link:

https://www.ravenol.de/en/products/usage/d/Product/show/p/ravenol-mtf-3-sae-75w.html


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Re: Jeep Renegade MTF Alternatives? [Re: Sunnyinhollister] #5144931 06/26/19 04:38 PM
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If you're focusing on Ravenol specifically for some reason, then Ravenol has the J1D2111 but I have not analyzed it nor have ever seen any properties data.

I would contact Amsoil and Redline to see why their DCT fluids would not qualify for your application.

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Originally Posted by MolaKule
If you're focusing on Ravenol specifically for some reason, then Ravenol has the J1D2111 but I have not analyzed it nor have ever seen any properties data.

I would contact Amsoil and Redline to see why their DCT fluids would not qualify for your application.


I just came across it when researching the BOT 350 M3. I noticed it listed the Ford spec for the Ford DCT fluid you recommended. That's why I asked. I have reached out to Redline, just waiting on a response.

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