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my K&N... #5142432
06/24/19 03:44 AM
06/24/19 03:44 AM
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Melbourne, Australia
dirtydannyd Offline OP
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Melbourne, Australia
Thought I'd share some picturs of the K&N air filters.

Car is E55 AMG with the M113k Supercharged V8. Purchased about 1 year ago. Checked the air filters recently for the first time and this is what they looked like...

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Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142439
06/24/19 04:04 AM
06/24/19 04:04 AM
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NY
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I'd find another brand.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142456
06/24/19 05:03 AM
06/24/19 05:03 AM
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North Carolina
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Where is the oil?

What was it cleaned with?

That is NOT a properly cared for air filter. I suspect that it was either rinsed with high-pressure water or dried with high-pressure air. Possibly both, and it was not re-oiled.

This is why I check/replace all filters and fluids when buying a new-to-me car.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142470
06/24/19 05:48 AM
06/24/19 05:48 AM
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VA
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I'd change my air filter to OEM and then change my oil and oil filter asap. You could have a lot of dirt lurking around in your engine.

A long time ago a wise many explained to me the only way dirt can get in your engine is through the air. A V-8 moment for me.


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Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142486
06/24/19 06:54 AM
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...belongs in the trash

OEM FTW


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Re: my K&N... [Re: tony1679] #5142488
06/24/19 07:17 AM
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North Carolina
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Originally Posted by tony1679
...belongs in the trash

OEM FTW

An OEM filter can be improperly installed and damaged. When I bought my Audi Q7 I installed an AEM filter.

I removed a crumpled and soaked OEM filter, carelessly installed by an Audi technician.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142493
06/24/19 07:33 AM
06/24/19 07:33 AM
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Upstate NY
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I would dump K&N and get a normal media filter. WIX, or OEM come to mind. What is the silicon in a UOA?


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Re: my K&N... [Re: Gebo] #5142512
06/24/19 07:50 AM
06/24/19 07:50 AM
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Posts: 191
Melbourne, Australia
dirtydannyd Offline OP
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Originally Posted by Gebo
I'd change my air filter to OEM and then change my oil and oil filter asap. You could have a lot of dirt lurking around in your engine.


Cheers. Done paper filter and the oil. Would there be anything else you'd do? Would anything else need cleaning?

Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142515
06/24/19 07:50 AM
06/24/19 07:50 AM
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Suburban Washington DC
atikovi Online content
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Don't they have a million mile warranty?

Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142517
06/24/19 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtydannyd
Originally Posted by Gebo
I'd change my air filter to OEM and then change my oil and oil filter asap. You could have a lot of dirt lurking around in your engine.


Cheers. Done paper filter and the oil. Would there be anything else you'd do? Would anything else need cleaning?


In my cars I will clean my MAF sensor.

You make a very excellent point. Thank you sir!


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'05 Lex LS430 85K
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Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142519
06/24/19 07:55 AM
06/24/19 07:55 AM
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What filter?
There's no filtering happening there.


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Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142529
06/24/19 08:01 AM
06/24/19 08:01 AM
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North Carolina
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Originally Posted by dirtydannyd
Originally Posted by Gebo
I'd change my air filter to OEM and then change my oil and oil filter asap. You could have a lot of dirt lurking around in your engine.

Cheers. Done paper filter and the oil. Would there be anything else you'd do? Would anything else need cleaning?

There's not really a whole lot you can do. Dirt in the oil will be trapped by the oil filter and/or drained with the sump. It's not "hiding" anywhere.

My biggest concern here would be the potential scoring of the supercharger rotors and damage to/dirtying of the intercooler fins.

Originally Posted by Gebo
Originally Posted by dirtydannyd
Originally Posted by Gebo
I'd change my air filter to OEM and then change my oil and oil filter asap. You could have a lot of dirt lurking around in your engine.

Cheers. Done paper filter and the oil. Would there be anything else you'd do? Would anything else need cleaning?

In my cars I will clean my MAF sensor.

You make a very excellent point. Thank you sir!

No MAF in the OP's car.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142552
06/24/19 08:22 AM
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LOL

For dirt to get filtered out of your oil , it would have to pass through the oil filter. I’m not no engineer, but I find it highly unlikely the dirt that got passed your air filter went directly straight into the oil filter.

Who knows, your oil filter may be in the shape shape as your air filter ???

Sarcasm can be hard to detect in a text, no?

Watch out for that lurking dirt!

Last edited by Gebo; 06/24/19 08:23 AM.

'98 LEX LS400 295K
'02 4Runner 235K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

Schaeffer Oil
Toyota ATF's and Coolant
Amsoil Gear Oil and Grease
(Subject to Change as the Wind Blows)
Re: my K&N... [Re: atikovi] #5142584
06/24/19 08:53 AM
06/24/19 08:53 AM
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Kendall, FL
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Originally Posted by atikovi
Don't they have a million mile warranty?


Yes, if you follow the care instructions.

Last edited by wemay; 06/24/19 08:59 AM.

2018 KIA Sportage LX 2.4 AWD:
QSAD 5W-20, PH9688

2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T:
PP 5W-30, OE
Re: my K&N... [Re: dirtydannyd] #5142596
06/24/19 09:11 AM
06/24/19 09:11 AM
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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The only problem with that filter is that it isn't in the trash.


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