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Arteries #5137384
06/18/19 10:17 AM
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CourierDriver Offline OP
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https://www.emedicinehealth.com/har...ardening_of_the_arteries_atherosclerosis

Take care of your heart like you take care of your car engine, you will not have clogged arteries all over your body...remember those clogged oil passages are like arteries, keep them clean, eat correctly..imho. In the United States, approximately 720,000 heart attacks occur annually. Nearly 380,000 people die annually from coronary heart disease.


Look into Forks Over Knives Official Plant-Based Group if you want to change your way of eating.

Today, the average American consumes almost 152 pounds of sugar in one year.
Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137394
06/18/19 10:29 AM
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Diet and exercise are not a cure-all. Ancient Egyptian mummies had age related atherosclerosis matching our own. Being overweight is a problem, for sure. However, this is an amazingly complex subject and those that claim to have a solution are regularly proven incorrect.

http://imaging.onlinejacc.org/content/4/4/315

ABOUT MUMMIES:

Quote: "had either definite atherosclerosis (defined as calcification within the wall of an identifiable artery, n = 12) or probable atherosclerosis (defined as calcifications along the expected course of an artery, n = 8). Calcifications were found in the aorta as well as the coronary, carotid, iliac, femoral, and peripheral leg arteries. The 20 mummies with definite or probable atherosclerosis were older at time of death (mean age 45.1 ± 9.2 years) than the mummies with CV tissue but no atherosclerosis (mean age 34.5 ± 11.8 years, p < 0.002). "

The list of items that reduce the risk of atherosclerosis can be found at:



[Linked Image]

the following factors increase risk:

Rheumatoid arthritis
Steroid use
Systemic Lupus Erythematosus
Smoking
Kawasaki’s disease
Use of Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs e.g. ibuprofen, naproxen and suchlike.
Being a deep coal miner – especially in Russia
Using cocaine
Getting older
Getting up in the morning – especially on Mondays
Type II diabetes
Raised fibrinogen level
Cushing’s disease
Air pollution
Acute physical or psychological stress
Chronic kidney disease
Avastin – a cancer drug
Looking at one of these risk factors, System Lupus Erythematosus. Young women with this condition have, in some studies, an increased risk of CVD of 5,500%.


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Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137397
06/18/19 10:37 AM
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It's interesting to note that high cortisol levels (stress hormone) whether through steroid use, natural causes (Cushing's disease) or high stress levels is very highly correlated with heart disease.

Conversely, low cortisol levels (Addison's) is highly correlated with clear arteries. Unfortunately it's also associated with severe and fatal heart rhythm problems.


Dr. Kendrick has a fantastic blog on heart disease. It's not what you think and we don't have a handle on it. There are at least 60 parts to this blog, it's worth it!

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2016/01/18/what-causes-heart-disease/

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2016/01/21/what-causes-heart-disease-part-ii/

etc.

Quote:

"I have entitled this little series ‘What causes heart disease?’ But I have been at pains to point out that you cannot possibly establish potential causes heart disease, until you are clear about the underlying process."

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Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137399
06/18/19 10:45 AM
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I recently read the obituary of a man who died of a stroke at age 72. It said that his wife probably will no longer follow their vegan diet.


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Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137473
06/18/19 12:04 PM
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I remember 35 years ago, health researchers funded by corporate America were trying to figure out why the French can eat such fattening foods yet have a low rate of heart problems. They were convinced it was because of the copious amounts of wine they consume. The researchers were working hard trying to isolate the chemical in wine that favorably affects this.

Then someone pointed out that Americans work much harder and were considerably more stressed out than the French. The research into wine quickly went away.

Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137487
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Do your reading, write down questions for your next Dr appt. All these things are best discussed with doctor.


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Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137507
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there are many variables to say the least, but lots of incorrect info fueled by big $$$$ sickcare as i call it is poor in the USA as its more about the $$$. check out the many you tubes by DR Ken D Berry a real MD that debunks many of todays beliefs + notes the incorrect-out of date recommendations he was that he was taught in med school!! he just wrote a second edition of "lies my Dr told me" a real eye opener!!!

Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137522
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Looks like it may be another consequence of senescent cells (i.e. cells that are broken but refuse to die):

https://www.theguardian.com/science...rden-cracked-scientists-calcium-deposits

Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137533
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So is oatmeal still good for you, or is it out now? It's kinda hard keeping up with all the quacks.


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Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137541
06/18/19 01:24 PM
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Sedentary lifestyle. North Americans probably have the most sedentary lifestyle among the developed world.

That said, I would prefer to die of heart attack than stuff like cancer. A quick death is far better than a slow painful death. My pain threshold is rather on the low side.

Re: Arteries [Re: supton] #5137542
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Originally Posted by supton
So is oatmeal still good for you, or is it out now? It's kinda hard keeping up with all the quacks.


What has never been out, always in, fruits and vegetables in natural form (no fruit juice) along with minimally refined grains.

Eat an apple a day was right 50 years ago and still today.

Get vitamins and minerals from food not pills and supplements.

Don't add sugar or salt to anything you are eating. It may be needed during the cooking, but don't add any more on your plate.


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Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137552
06/18/19 01:36 PM
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I like apples but I tend to avoid them, kinda high in sugar. Good in pie though. wink I prefer my grapes aged a bit though.

I thought salt was back in? Well, it's no longer evil, that is. I actually no longer care much to eat out, too much salt in most stuff. Homemade stuff is just so much better, even if it's something quick and not that tasty (salad or pasta or similar).

I've been trying to watch my potassium lately, I sweat profusely in summer and have been having palpitations from time to time. I've wondered about taking something for that, as one quack says fructose is bad for you (banana's and raisins) and many of them say carbs are bad in general (potatoes). Hard keeping it straight what I should and shouldn't eat (so I don't pay attention anymore). The recommendations will just change anyhow.


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Re: Arteries [Re: CourierDriver] #5137553
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At 54 had a heart attack 95% blockage one arterie. Never smoked, ate good, light drinker ,worked out and never felt bad. Hoofed a 7 story building to the roof three times in less that two hours working a week before. Had a physical every year since 45 never said go to a cardiologist. Bottom line was stress and should of picked different parents.

Re: Arteries [Re: Fitter30] #5137568
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Originally Posted by Fitter30
Bottom line was stress and should of picked different parents.

That's one thing I gotta thank my parents for, especially my dad.
He always taught me that me as an individual, my thoughts, dreams and ideas are worth far more than any job is willing to pay me or money I could make.
As a result I've valued my health as a far greater asset than anything I could buy.

I take no prescription drugs, but make sure to rest and play a little each day.
About to turn 40 and still getting busted for ID when buying booze.
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Re: Arteries [Re: supton] #5137687
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Originally Posted by supton
So is oatmeal still good for you, or is it out now? It's kinda hard keeping up with all the quacks.


Oatmeal is still in,,it is recommended if you need to lose weight n Plant Based Eating programs.


Look into Forks Over Knives Official Plant-Based Group if you want to change your way of eating.

Today, the average American consumes almost 152 pounds of sugar in one year.
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