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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137314 06/18/19 07:22 AM
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I pleaded “prayer for judgment” once and the judge granted my plea. I payed court cost and the speeding ticket was dismissed with no license or insurance points. I had an otherwise clean record but it’s up to the discretion of the judge to grant a PFJ.

Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137318 06/18/19 07:31 AM
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Obviously every state and/or jurisdiction varies. Unless you are very confident that you were wronged, my choice is the coward's way - do the plea bargain and do what WhyMe is doing - second guess yourself. Then, make comments like Fawteen (son of Pop Rivit?) - proclaim a life of perfection and moral superiority, LOL.

My first plea bargain traffic ticket was speeding in a construction zone (poorly placed signs, IMO). A prosecutor over heard my explanation at the front counter and offered a defective equipment fine. I, too, second guessed my decision and had thoughts of ""if plea bargaining is rampant at this level, just imagine what happens in serious circus court?". Move on WhyMe. You did right.

Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137327 06/18/19 07:41 AM
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If you're clean for a long time it does help out if you go to the hearing. The last time I did that, which was probably 20 years ago, nearly everyone in the room was "no license, no insurance", so when I stood up there for 15 over I looked like an angel. Just a fine and no hit to my record (which is great for insurance reasons).

We have people attempt to contest red light violations all the time. Their problem usually is they don't watch the video before they come to contest it. The video is then shared for everyone and it's pretty obvious. Our standard is the light has to be red before you enter the intersection. This is easily shown by stopping the video and looking at red lights, a stop line, and a car that hasn't gone over it yet. Running light is pretty chronic around me, and it's annoying.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: rooflessVW] #5137342 06/18/19 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rooflessVW
I always call my lawyer as soon as the officer leaves and I have never had a speeding ticket stick.

Curiosity is how much does that cost per ticket roughly to have a lawyer involved?

Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137348 06/18/19 08:10 AM
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Now with that said, I've been involved in some questionable vehicle stuff and NOT got a ticket. Following a friend 50+ miles in a junker Jeep he bought with no reg/insurance/inspection.

More recently a friend bought a boat and trailer and I hauled it home for him. Obviously it wasn't registered yet since he just bought it. Had no lights, so we did magnet stickon lights. We ended up getting pulled over at like 11PM. 4 ways on, off the road as far as possible, interior lights on, license and reg for my truck on display in my hand, both hands on wheel. Straightforward with him - hey we just bought this, have no registration on it, friend's place is only a few more miles.

He let us know that one of the lights went out but it started working again so we were good to go.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137350 06/18/19 08:12 AM
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No me but my FiL got a sweetheart ending when he went to court. Asked me to drive him to court but never told me for what. So we get there and sitting in a court room and I ask him what the officers name was. I wanted to make sure we were in the right court room. Well he hands me the ticket and its for reckless driving. Reckless driving is VAs golden ticket they love to give out. Up to $2500 fine, 1 year of jail, and/or 6 month suspension of your drivers license.

Judge calls my fathers name and he, my 80+ year old FiL, walks up. After seeing the ticket I told him to plead No Contest in hopes he could get it lowered. So judge ask FiL how do you plead, in a low voice my FiL says, no contest your honor. so judge ask FiL if he like to say anything. I'm thinking a low no or just a quick sorry. Instead my FiL goes full on throw himself at the mercy of the court. Starts off with a "I am so poor, I only get $xxx a month...". The court room goes even more silent than it was before, people leaning forward to get a better glimpse, and my FiL still throwing the longest hail mary that court would probably see that day. After it ended the judge just froze for a second. He then asked the cop about my FiL. Cop said he was quiet and polite. Again the judge just froze. He then looks at my FiL and says, this is probably the lowest I have ever given for a reckless ticket. He then barked out $90 fine plus court cost. The entire court room was looking around to see if they heard the same an anyone else. The judge tells my FiL to slow down and both of them waving their hands as the my FiL trys to mimic the judge.

So we leave the court room, myself in shock like most that saw it, and paid I believe $140 or so total for a reckless driving ticket in VA.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137361 06/18/19 08:39 AM
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I get being able to plead down a ticket cost amount for a specific violation or have it dismissed entirely due to first time offence or misunderstanding, but to to get caught for speeding and then have the system totally change the violation to an entirely different offence like seat belt or lane violation just shows how crooked the traffic system really is.

Might as well fight a conviction for stealing to plea down to public defecation. It's all about the money I suppose.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: Miller88] #5137376 06/18/19 09:02 AM
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I haven't been pulled over much, but I got a 80 in a 65, and decided to just pay it, whatever, my fault. I also got pulled over doing 94 in a 55 because everybody figured the left two lanes were cruising lanes. The Judge saw I was in the military, lowered the offense and it's not even on my records.

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He let us know that one of the lights went out but it started working again so we were good to go.


Funny story, my friend had an old 80s woody wagon and got pulled over for having a taillight out. The cop let him out of the car to look at it, my friend proceeded to hit the tail light to turn it on, and the cop laughed and let him go.

Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137400 06/18/19 09:45 AM
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I got a speeding ticket thrown out by the judge once; only had to pay the court fees. And this was in VA, which is known for its rather draconian traffic laws.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137408 06/18/19 10:00 AM
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If the option exists to ELECT to take driving school that promises "adjudication withheld" , do it.

Just about any other option carries risk of increased insurance premiums and significant secondary risk at your next ticket. Including unforeseen expenses such as paying the 3 year "Driver Responsibility Assessment"


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: madRiver] #5137417 06/18/19 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by madRiver
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I always call my lawyer as soon as the officer leaves and I have never had a speeding ticket stick.

Curiosity is how much does that cost per ticket roughly to have a lawyer involved?

Between $120 and $350, depending on the state, county, etc. Each one has been a little different.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137455 06/18/19 10:40 AM
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The whole orientation of this thread is flawed. If you have to ask "how do I get out of a traffic ticket" then you shouldn't even have a drivers' license. The fact that lots of people have this attitude is hugely unfortunate, but irrelevant.

1. If you don't want a traffic ticket, then don't speed, run red lights or otherwise drive illegally.
2. If you like to speed, run red lights, or otherwise drive illegally, then have the stones to accept responsibility for your actions when you get caught.
3. If you made a simple mistake, own up to it. The officer knows people make mistakes. He may still issue you a ticket, but the judge also knows people make mistakes. If he finds you guilty, then chalk it up to a learning experience and think about how not to make the same mistake in the future.

Honestly, these concepts are basic things that apply to life in general that most of us learned as very small children. If you go through life with the goal of learning how best to avoid responsibility and get away with things you shouldn't be doing, then you're going to have a tough time.

Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: AlaskaMike] #5137461 06/18/19 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaMike
The whole orientation of this thread is flawed. If you have to ask "how do I get out of a traffic ticket" then you shouldn't even have a drivers' license. The fact that lots of people have this attitude is hugely unfortunate, but irrelevant.

1. If you don't want a traffic ticket, then don't speed, run red lights or otherwise drive illegally.
2. If you like to speed, run red lights, or otherwise drive illegally, then have the stones to accept responsibility for your actions when you get caught.
3. If you made a simple mistake, own up to it. The officer knows people make mistakes. He may still issue you a ticket, but the judge also knows people make mistakes. If he finds you guilty, then chalk it up to a learning experience and think about how not to make the same mistake in the future.

Honestly, these concepts are basic things that apply to life in general that most of us learned as very small children. If you go through life with the goal of learning how best to avoid responsibility and get away with things you shouldn't be doing, then you're going to have a tough time.

Well stated.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: WhyMe] #5137492 06/18/19 11:26 AM
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Slim if the officer shows. Good possibility of some type of reduction though.


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Re: what are the chances of getting out of a traffic ticket? [Re: Joel_MD] #5137499 06/18/19 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Joel_MD
Apparently everyone who hit the car in front of them was cited for careless driving.


Well DUH! That's what happens when you're following too close or not paying attention.

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