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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: ARCOgraphite] #5136415
06/17/19 09:18 AM
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Probably a Australian or Middle East/Asian diesel powered Ranger.

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Brand new OE Quality Timing Belt Kit + water pump for Ford Ranger PJ PK 2.5L 3.0L diesel engine 2006-2011.

Application:

Ford Ranger PJ WLAT 2.5L WEAT 3.0L 12/2006-03/2009

Ford Ranger PK WLAT 2.5L WEAT 3.0L 04/2009-08/2011

Mazda BT50 UN WLAT 2.5L WEAT 3.0L 11/2006-10/2011

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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: berniedd] #5136434
06/17/19 09:37 AM
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Not sure about the age thing. Depending on climate, It holds up fine. Our first 05 sienna we had done at about 9 years and 150k kms. After selling that one and picking up my folks 05 Sienna that had 30k kms on it a couple of years ago (62k kms now), it is still running on the original timing belt going on 15 years. I had a look at it a little while ago and it looks perfect...no cracks, chips and the writing is still perfect on the outside. It looks completely new. I won't change it until around 100k kms and drive the van without worry.

That being said, our climate is easy on rubber, unlike hot places in the US. Tires easily go 10+ years without visually aging and i know the original set of tires for this van are still in use with the first van we sold.


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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: berniedd] #5136465
06/17/19 10:26 AM
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The last year for the 2.5L was 2001 and it was a non-interference engine. Starting mid-year 2001 Ford switched to the Duratec 2.3L DOHC and it has a timing chain.


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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: berniedd] #5136547
06/17/19 12:21 PM
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Berniedd hit and ran. Maybe he's out doing the belt smile

Must agree with Trav on the non Stateside motor.

Wish the OP would give specifics on vehicle when asking such a question instead of making it a guessing game and wasting E-ink smile

10 year old Ford truck leaves a lot of wiggle room for guessing. But at least in the U.S. there were no dry cam timing system engines made in that period.

Now I gotta go look up the diesel. Too bad none in the U.S. Imagine a $19K 4 banger diesel 2wd stick Ranger.

A legend! .


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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: berniedd] #5136551
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I usually do timing belts at 10 years if they do not hit mileage for most vehicles. If its a known failure/issue car then earlier.


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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: berniedd] #5137222
06/18/19 05:23 AM
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Guys, it is a 2009 Duratorq TDCi engine 2.5 liter displacement in-line4, RWD sold in Asia, Europe and South Africa. I'm going to get the timing belt and ATF (Mercon V) + transmission filter changed this weekend. I'm also considering blocking off the EGR but heard that this may increase fuel consumption mileage especially while at idle or even trigger a CEL, unless the engine computer is reprogrammed.

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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: berniedd] #5137259
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Eco Blue Panther. That is what I figured, sounds like a plan but do not block the EGR, it 100% will trigger a CEL.


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Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: Trav] #5137301
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I copy that, Trav. Reinforces my research.

Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: berniedd] #5143570
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Got the timing belt, tensioner, idler bearing, and the 2 camshaft oil seals changed (exhaust cam seal was already starting to weep). Also the ATF via pan drop. Changed the ATF filter too. Some mud and metal specks were on the pan magnet.There was less than 3 quarts (of the total ATF capacity of 10.5 quarts) in the pan so I opted for a flush. Disconnected the return line from the ATF cooler and spliced in the "dialysis machine" hoses. The machine was nothing but a system of petcocks that allowed the old ATF to drain out and new ATF to get sucked into the return inlet line. There's no external pump to force the fluids in and out. The only pump that was in action was the car's own transmission. Also had 2 clear glass or plexiglass tubes for viewing the color of the old ATF flowing out (very dark red, almost brown) and the new ATF going in. Used 16 quarts of new ATF (Mag1 MultiVehicle Fully Synthetic) poured into the machine's reservoir to complete the process. Stopped when the old ATF color draining our was almost like that of the new.

Reconnected the ATF lines, restarted the engine and checked the ATF level by removing the big screw at the base of the chimney that poked into the inside of the ATF pan. If no ATF flowed out, that meant not enough ATF in the system. ATF spurted out some, and a few seconds later replaced the screw once very little ATF was coming out. Job completed.

Re: time based timing belt change question [Re: talest] #5143622
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Originally Posted by talest
Originally Posted by berniedd
10 year old Ford truck, guys. Manual says change timing belt at 80,000 miles but makes no mention of time allowed. I am nowhere near 80,000 miles and I'm getting uncomfortable with the engine now at 10-year old mark. How much longer can I stretch it? I drive normally, no towing done.


You bring up an excellent point, about how a timing belt change is supposed to be done whether it is needed to or not, preventative maintenance. Because even if you have an interference engine, which most engines are and a small and select few are not. If it snaps on you, the interference engine has a strong chance of being done for, best case scenario a valve job which means head off. The non-interference engine may not be damaged, but still will not run home.

I remember the interval being something like 10 years or 100,000-110,000 miles, or if not previously known when it was changed. This always meant to me that you buy a used car, if the previous owner changed it yesterday and did not document it, you should change it again to be sure. Because maybe it is the original timing belt that came with the car. Same with spark plugs, do you know when they were last changed? Without records, all you have is a visual inspection and same with battery, is it the OEM style battery? This is your only clue.

Do you feel like your belt may be in a position where its condition is starting to deteriorate? You do not seem to be too hard on your Ford truck, this probably how most people use their vehicles, though severe service can constitute if you have to stop at a few lights or stop signs on the way to wherever you are going. The more lights you stop at, the more severe. The timing belt stays in its own sealed compartment on the side or front of the engine, depending, and you have a belt not a chain, okay.. I would agree that age can be a factor in if they snap on you.

You got a 5.4 Windsor? a 4.6? A V-10? 10 years old, so it cannot be a 4.9 I-6.. ? 3 Valve?


Spark plugs never much worried me , like a timing belt would .

Our 2015 Chevy Sonic 1.8l has a timing belt . Think the owner's manual indicated 97,500 miles to replacement . If I am still able to DIY it , I may change it a little before that . The water pump is not behind the timing cover , it is changeable w/o opening the timing cover . So I will probably leave it alone , if it it in not leaking .

Does anyone know if that engine is an interference engine ?


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