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Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! #5136364
06/17/19 08:03 AM
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Kestor Offline OP
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So, after getting my oil changed at the dealership with "full synthetic Mobil One" I noticed a huge cloud of blue smoke on cold start up. 300k plus on the engine and I'm the original owner. Never had much for issues with the engine (jinx), burns some oil when I drive it hard, but maybe a quart in 8k miles. But never any blue smoke. So after a few weeks and noticing the oil getting really black and then adding 3!! quarts within the first 2k miles after the oil change I'm thinking the engine is toast. I quickly looked thru prior recommendations on BITOG and tried a couple of the additives suggested, more than once...no help. Long story short, I changed the oil myself with off the shelf Mobil One Full Synthetic high mileage (what I have been using since 150k) - no more issues.
What they put in for oil I have no idea. Maybe the kid grabbed the wrong oil gun? 8k on the oil change and hasn't burned any oil and no blue smoke.
Appreciate all the help from this site. Thought I would share my adventure!

Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Kestor] #5136370
06/17/19 08:19 AM
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Roswell GA
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Haven't heard of one with that dramatic an increase from a (likely) brand change but it doesn't seem unlikely given an engine with 300k on it.

Curious: what kind of vehicle, and what weight Mobil 1 are you using?

Last edited by eagle23; 06/17/19 08:20 AM.
Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Kestor] #5136373
06/17/19 08:21 AM
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What engine? How old? Which brand of car dealership? I don't think I've ever heard of a dealer actively using mobil1 or any real big name oil. Usually it's bulk off/no name brand.

I have an older engine with >200K miles and tired valve seals. It'll occasionally puff blue smoke on startup. Or if I lug it too low with a trailer taking off from a stop sign.

Been running 5w-30 maxlife in it for a year or so.


18 Forester 2.5I 6M
00 Jeep XJ
01 F-350 4x4 5M
Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Miller88] #5136376
06/17/19 08:26 AM
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Canada
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Originally Posted by Miller88
What engine? How old? Which brand of car dealership? I don't think I've ever heard of a dealer actively using mobil1 or any real big name oil. Usually it's bulk off/no name brand.

I have an older engine with >200K miles and tired valve seals. It'll occasionally puff blue smoke on startup. Or if I lug it too low with a trailer taking off from a stop sign.

Been running 5w-30 maxlife in it for a year or so.



Would be nice to know which engine.

If it's a turbo engine, it could be bad turbo seals.


2015 Forester XT @ 92000km
Current fill: Mobil ESP Formula 5w-30 with Fram Ultra XG7317
Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Kestor] #5136418
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It sounds like it got refilled with something VERY thin, like ATF or power steering fluid!


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(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Kestor] #5136428
06/17/19 09:33 AM
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Wet side WA
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Can you ever be sure what it is unless you see them fill it. My money says you have a 50 50 chance or less.


2004 Corolla 134004
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 75175
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Linctex] #5136444
06/17/19 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Linctex
It sounds like it got refilled with something VERY thin, like ATF or power steering fluid!


Ouch, that would be a fail on an epic scale but (sadly) not implausible.🤔

Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Kestor] #5136449
06/17/19 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kestor
So, after getting my oil changed at the dealership with "full synthetic Mobil One" I noticed a huge cloud of blue smoke on cold start up. 300k plus on the engine and I'm the original owner. Never had much for issues with the engine (jinx), burns some oil when I drive it hard, but maybe a quart in 8k miles. But never any blue smoke. So after a few weeks and noticing the oil getting really black and then adding 3!! quarts within the first 2k miles after the oil change I'm thinking the engine is toast. I quickly looked thru prior recommendations on BITOG and tried a couple of the additives suggested, more than once...no help. Long story short, I changed the oil myself with off the shelf Mobil One Full Synthetic high mileage (what I have been using since 150k) - no more issues.
What they put in for oil I have no idea. Maybe the kid grabbed the wrong oil gun? 8k on the oil change and hasn't burned any oil and no blue smoke.
Appreciate all the help from this site. Thought I would share my adventure!

Lesson learned! Either change the oil yourself (or) hand them the five quart jug & filter you just purchased. Then don't turn your back on them for the entire oil change, for they might keep your good oil for themselves and still install their lousy house brand.

If they tell you to wait in the waiting room, then shake their hand and take your vehicle & oil to another shop, where you can watch the work being done.


19 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4GDI Castrol Edge 5w30 / NAPA Mann-Hummel filter / 6oz Liqui-Moly Treatment
04 Colorado 3.5 Castrol Edge 0W40 Euro & K&N filter
03 Malibu 3.1 QS / Valv Syn 5w30 mix Fram EG filter
Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Kestor] #5136648
06/17/19 02:03 PM
06/17/19 02:03 PM
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Indiana
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Originally Posted by Kestor
So, after getting my oil changed at the dealership with "full synthetic Mobil One" I noticed a huge cloud of blue smoke on cold start up. 300k plus on the engine and I'm the original owner. Never had much for issues with the engine (jinx), burns some oil when I drive it hard, but maybe a quart in 8k miles. But never any blue smoke. So after a few weeks and noticing the oil getting really black and then adding 3!! quarts within the first 2k miles after the oil change I'm thinking the engine is toast. I quickly looked thru prior recommendations on BITOG and tried a couple of the additives suggested, more than once...no help. Long story short, I changed the oil myself with off the shelf Mobil One Full Synthetic high mileage (what I have been using since 150k) - no more issues.
What they put in for oil I have no idea. Maybe the kid grabbed the wrong oil gun? 8k on the oil change and hasn't burned any oil and no blue smoke.
Appreciate all the help from this site. Thought I would share my adventure!



What does your receipt say, did they write down Mobil 1 oil as being used? Makes you wonder if they really used Mobil 1.

We are using Mobil 1 in our all vehicles, the SUV has 156,000+ miles, our dad's Tundra has 161,000+, my brother Civic has 346,000+ miles, none of them have a cloud of blue smoke on cold start up.

Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Miller88] #5136660
06/17/19 02:16 PM
06/17/19 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Miller88
What engine? How old? Which brand of car dealership? I don't think I've ever heard of a dealer actively using mobil1 or any real big name oil. Usually it's bulk off/no name brand.

I have an older engine with >200K miles and tired valve seals. It'll occasionally puff blue smoke on startup. Or if I lug it too low with a trailer taking off from a stop sign.

Been running 5w-30 maxlife in it for a year or so.


Our local Toyota dealer was promoting oil changes with Mobil 1. It is being offered as an "upgrade" oil change.

The Honda had signs last time I went to buy Honda power steering fluid promoting Pennzoil Platinum as the "premium oil change". I thought that was interesting because I was thinking they would try to promote their own Honda synthetic oils.

Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Kestor] #5136679
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Sounds to me like they did not use Mobil 1.


"Think of all the Ford owners who will someday want an automobile." John Dodge

Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Triple_Se7en] #5136686
06/17/19 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Lesson learned! Either change the oil yourself (or) hand them the five quart jug & filter you just purchased. Then don't turn your back on them for the entire oil change, for they might keep your good oil for themselves and still install their lousy house brand.

If they tell you to wait in the waiting room, then shake their hand and take your vehicle & oil to another shop, where you can watch the work being done.


Or just ask for the used jug back. It's one thing to ask to watch the work being done, but it's a little unreasonable to demand to be there to watch, especially since that may require you to be in the shop and many places will balk at that for insurance reasons.

Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: Mad_Hatter] #5136705
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Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by Linctex
It sounds like it got refilled with something VERY thin, like ATF or power steering fluid!


Ouch, that would be a fail on an epic scale but (sadly) not implausible.🤔


Since it is a Toyota dealer, is it possible that their default "upgrade" oil change was TGMO 0W-20?

M1 EP HM 5W-30 is very "thick" compared to TGMO 0w-20.


2011 Toyota Prius 1.8L - 193K - Idemitsu ZEPRO Adv. Moly 0W-20
2007 Honda Accord 2.4 - 137K - Mobil 1 EP HM 5W-30
Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: The Critic] #5136718
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Originally Posted by The Critic
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by Linctex
It sounds like it got refilled with something VERY thin, like ATF or power steering fluid!


Ouch, that would be a fail on an epic scale but (sadly) not implausible.🤔


Since it is a Toyota dealer, is it possible that their default "upgrade" oil change was TGMO 0W-20?

M1 EP HM 5W-30 is very "thick" compared to TGMO 0w-20.


I agree, they might have filled the sump with a 20 grade oil.


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Re: Mobil 1 Syn High Milage helped!! [Re: JustN89] #5136829
06/17/19 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JustN89
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Lesson learned! Either change the oil yourself (or) hand them the five quart jug & filter you just purchased. Then don't turn your back on them for the entire oil change, for they might keep your good oil for themselves and still install their lousy house brand.

If they tell you to wait in the waiting room, then shake their hand and take your vehicle & oil to another shop, where you can watch the work being done.


Or just ask for the used jug back. It's one thing to ask to watch the work being done, but it's a little unreasonable to demand to be there to watch, especially since that may require you to be in the shop and many places will balk at that for insurance reasons.

Used jug returned to owner can still be tampered with, prior to work completed.
Either watch the work, or don't complain to members here about possibly getting the wrong oil there.


19 Hyundai SantaFe 2.4GDI Castrol Edge 5w30 / NAPA Mann-Hummel filter / 6oz Liqui-Moly Treatment
04 Colorado 3.5 Castrol Edge 0W40 Euro & K&N filter
03 Malibu 3.1 QS / Valv Syn 5w30 mix Fram EG filter
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