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Who Makes Federated Oils? #5136198
06/16/19 10:54 PM
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It seems that from about 10 years ago that Warren was making Federated Engine oils. Is that still the case?


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Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5136213
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Thought it was Ashland now....


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Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5136262
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Warren Distribution makes the Federared Auto oils in VA now... And likely for just about all Fedrated Auto stores I'd bet..

I know here in Va they are made by Warren Distribution...

A very solid deal at times... Dexos Gen 2 approved etc etc for under $4 a quart at times. Just a year and a half ago one could find their 5w30 full synthetic oil for $3.29 a qt on sale... Now I think it's like $3.78 a qt on sale.

At the Federated Auto just south of Richmond is where I have gone a number of times. Part of the Fisher Auto parts affiliation stores.

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Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5136335
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Bbhero,

I’ve been noticing a lot of shops use their oil and then I saw their sale on synthetic blend and full synthetic oil in a Fisher Auto parts store. I’m not a cheapo oil guy but I am seriously considering giving it a try.

I’d like to see what percentage PAO is in their semi synthetic.


'98 LEX LS400 295K
'02 4Runner 235K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

Schaeffer Oil
Toyota ATF's and Coolant
Amsoil Gear Oil and Grease
(Subject to Change as the Wind Blows)
Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5136487
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Originally Posted by Gebo
I’ve been noticing a lot of shops use their oil and then I saw their sale on synthetic blend and full synthetic oil in a Fisher Auto parts store. I’m not a cheapo oil guy but I am seriously considering giving it a try.

The sales flyer for the local Fisher Auto Parts (was KOI just weeks ago so it's a recent re-branding it appears) lists a 55-gallon drum of synthetic blend for $498 and that's what any Joe off the street would pay. Granted, no one is buying 55-gallon drums for their garage at home so it's a starting point for shop prices. I'd think a shop would pay 25% less so they're under $2/quart.

Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5136516
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Looking at the d1G2 license list, for the Federated Full Synthetic oils it says directly the Amalie Oil Co. is the supplier.

For Federated Auto Parts Full Synthetic, the license #s match those of Warren Distribution products like MAG 1.


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Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5136611
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Well, that's confusing to me.


'98 LEX LS400 295K
'02 4Runner 235K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

Schaeffer Oil
Toyota ATF's and Coolant
Amsoil Gear Oil and Grease
(Subject to Change as the Wind Blows)
Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #5136748
06/17/19 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Looking at the d1G2 license list, for the Federated Full Synthetic oils it says directly the Amalie Oil Co. is the supplier.

For Federated Auto Parts Full Synthetic, the license #s match those of Warren Distribution products like MAG 1.

Probably both are blending the oil depending on area.
Both Amalie and wpp blend and bottle for many places. They are reputable companies and they have to produce products to meet the requirements their meant for just as Mobil or Valvoline or Chevron ect. does. Nobody need to worry about using their products.

Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5136793
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I'm considering using some after my Schaeffer stash goes away. If I can get Dexos1G2 for $3.78/qt?

Plus I'd be buying from a small company vs Walmart.

I'm just a little scared and looking for a psychological hug, that's all.


'98 LEX LS400 295K
'02 4Runner 235K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

Schaeffer Oil
Toyota ATF's and Coolant
Amsoil Gear Oil and Grease
(Subject to Change as the Wind Blows)
Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5137093
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Originally Posted by Gebo
Well, that's confusing to me.



Yeah I have seen that Dexos listing...

The one is for Federated Auto parts stores is the correct Dexos Gen 2... Aka Warren Distribution which correlates to their Mag1 Dexos license.

I think that the WD oil is very good. I would like it if they made a HM version for Federated Auto parts stores..


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CQ blue 84356 Oil filter
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Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5137096
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Don't blame you on wanting to go to a smaller business... part of the reason why I have gone to Fisher Auto parts in Richmond. Their oil filters are cheap as well... $2.59 for the Premium Guard made filter that is 96 percent at 25 microns. The black Federated Auto EX oil filter is 99 percent at 20 microns. And that was $5.09 for my car.


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Carquest High mileage full synthetic 5w30
CQ blue 84356 Oil filter
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5137266
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bbhero,

In your sig you have "Treat your family..." Did that come out of you or did you read it, hear it somewhere else?

It's really good. Very thought provoking.


'98 LEX LS400 295K
'02 4Runner 235K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'07 Lex GX470 65K

Schaeffer Oil
Toyota ATF's and Coolant
Amsoil Gear Oil and Grease
(Subject to Change as the Wind Blows)
Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5137297
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Very old saying...


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Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: Gebo] #5138103
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Originally Posted by Gebo
bbhero,

In your sig you have "Treat your family..." Did that come out of you or did you read it, hear it somewhere else?

It's really good. Very thought provoking.



Well I heard this saying from a buddy of mine Mike Greene who worked with me at Winn Dixie back in 1996...

It makes sense because there are things we would say to our family that we would never say to our friends... Just because we are family should not grant us license to say or be so ugly to our family members...

And if we treat our friends like our family and treat them like our family then it helps create a stronger bond with them....


I remember that a number of sayings I have heard over the years... This one really really struck me has well...


Candidly I remember what my aunt Irene told me in August of2008 in my mom's foyer... When taking care of patients who may not always talk to you... They still hear you... They feel your presence and how you are with them...


Very, very true... I had a resident/patient who I always spoke to... Put my arm around her... Always did this when I gave her medication to her... She never spoke for 8 months I had been with her.... Then one afternoon after I had given her medication to her she said, "thank you"... Plain as day... I could have just about fell over when I heard her say that to me. It reminded me instantly what my aunt had told me 8 years earlier... Amazingly in the summer of 2017 this same resident/patient had a period of about a month to where she was talking a good bit regularly in that time... Her and I had a number of good talks in that time... The lady was 99 years old at that time... It really was something special. And one evening after I had given her medication to her she purposely reached out and grabbed my hand and pulled it up and held it against her face... Hard to articulate what that does to you... Makes you think... And know what you had heard years before was so very true. To understand that was someone's mother, grandmother, great grandmother... And to think how one would want their mother or grandmother to be treated... I know as a man... I know how I'd want my mother to be treated like... Makes you think.

Last edited by bbhero; 06/19/19 05:52 AM.

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Carquest High mileage full synthetic 5w30
CQ blue 84356 Oil filter
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Re: Who Makes Federated Oils? [Re: bbhero] #5138168
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Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by Gebo
bbhero,
In your sig you have "Treat your family..." Did that come out of you or did you read it, hear it somewhere else?
It's really good. Very thought provoking.

Well I heard this saying from a buddy of mine Mike Greene who worked with me at Winn Dixie back in 1996...
It makes sense because there are things we would say to our family that we would never say to our friends... Just because we are family should not grant us license to say or be so ugly to our family members...
And if we treat our friends like our family and treat them like our family then it helps create a stronger bond with them....
I remember that a number of sayings I have heard over the years... This one really really struck me has well...
Candidly I remember what my aunt Irene told me in August of2008 in my mom's foyer... When taking care of patients who may not always talk to you... They still hear you... They feel your presence and how you are with them...
Very, very true... I had a resident/patient who I always spoke to... Put my arm around her... Always did this when I gave her medication to her... She never spoke for 8 months I had been with her.... Then one afternoon after I had given her medication to her she said, "thank you"... Plain as day... I could have just about fell over when I heard her say that to me. It reminded me instantly what my aunt had told me 8 years earlier... Amazingly in the summer of 2017 this same resident/patient had a period of about a month to where she was talking a good bit regularly in that time... Her and I had a number of good talks in that time... The lady was 99 years old at that time... It really was something special. And one evening after I had given her medication to her she purposely reached out and grabbed my hand and pulled it up and held it against her face... Hard to articulate what that does to you... Makes you think... And know what you had heard years before was so very true. To understand that was someone's mother, grandmother, great grandmother... And to think how one would want their mother or grandmother to be treated... I know as a man... I know how I'd want my mother to be treated like... Makes you think.

Boy, this reminds me of a time in college when I learned a big lesson about making assumptions.
A friend of mine moved off campus into a room in a house owned by a lady with a severely disabled son. A grad student also lived with them and helped take care of the boy, I think he got room/board and a small salary...my buddy was just a renter. The boy's dad had left long ago, the mom said he had no interested in caring for a disabled child but I didn't have any independent verification of that.
I think the boy was something like 12 or 13, he was in a wheelchair and his ability to control his movements seemed pretty limited. After being around him a few times, I assumed that he was nonverbal and not very aware of his surroundings even though his mother talked to him all the time. One time when I was visiting, the grad student was not around and the mom asked me to help stretch the boy's legs out...I think she was mad at my friend about something and didn't want to deal with him. I was happy to help her out, but honestly kind of treated the kid like he was a lump of clay...I wasn't rough with him or anything like that, but I didn't talk to or smile at him while we were working with him.
Not long after that, the mom and the grad student were in goofy moods when I was visiting and having a fake argument about which one the boy liked better...the guy swore that it was him and kept asking the boy to tell everybody he was the favorite.
The kid then smiled and said softly, but very clearly, "Mom".

This just about floored me, and after pondering this revelation for a few seconds I had to leave the room because I was about to burst into tears...I felt so ashamed for assuming that the kid wasn't really there because of his physical issues. I really felt like the lowest of the low for a while for not recognizing this boy as a person.
After talking to the mom more, I learned that her son could read, had friends at school, and quite a sense of humor...it was just very difficult for him to express himself because of his condition. It seemed like getting a word out was quite an effort for him...I thought about how terrible it must have been to have an active mind with a body that made it hard for him to interact with the world.
I always made a point of seeking out the boy on future visits and asking how he was doing and generally being as pleasant as I could...I never got an answer other than a smile, but that was enough.


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