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15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps #5135042
06/15/19 03:29 PM
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leroyd92 Offline OP
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I have 2 boats with 350 engines in them. I've always used 1540 or 2050 in them but I've been curious if I'd gain anything from a full synthetic 10w30.

Engine RPM never goes past 4k

We cruise them at 3k.

My only concern is certain spots of water can we warm especially late in the summer.

What are your thoughts?


Supertech Junky
Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135043
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Originally Posted by leroyd92
What are your thoughts?

Why change what's working?
Only difference I could see, is additional cost to you.


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Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135061
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The water can't be nearly as warm as the ambient air temp or the water coming out of the radiator.


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Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135063
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Unlimited cooling water supply, most marine engines have relatively low temp thermostats in them, I would stick with the 15W40.


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Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135124
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Originally Posted by leroyd92
I have 2 boats with 350 engines in them. I've always used 1540 or 2050 in them but I've been curious if I'd gain anything from a full synthetic 10w30.

Engine RPM never goes past 4k

We cruise them at 3k.

My only concern is certain spots of water can we warm especially late in the summer.

What are your thoughts?


Don't they require marine oil?

Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135199
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Keep doing what works. I dont think theres anything to gain here except if you were running longer intervals perhaps.


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Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135202
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What you could gain is running a straight-weight oil if the brand/weight you want comes in that offering.

Running a winter rating is pointless for a vehicle not started below freezing (I'm making an assumption here about your use of it), and you sacrifice by having a lighter base oil and non-lubricating and potentially shearing VIIs in it.

Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135283
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15w40 would get my vote. Good all round oil that can handle high heat and even cool temps you may see.


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Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135336
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Don't do it. The 30 weight thing has been tried by the manufacturers before. Didn't work. Wear problems popped up like whackamoles.


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Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5135345
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Stick with the 15W-40 usage.


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Re: 15w40 or synthetic 10w30 for 115°f temps [Re: leroyd92] #5136298
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20w50 all the way, way more so for your hot climate.

15/40 acceptable but would prefer 25/40 is you were to go down to a 40.

10w30 to me would be insanity and I think all you would need to do is try it out, then run the boat for an hour or two at 3000+ RPM, slow down and listen to your valves clap.

Most marine engines have 170 degree thermostats in them so it doesnt matter too much as far as water temperature that the boat is running, unless you have closed cooling, then you may have a 190 thermostat..

Oil temperatures do not correlate to water and engine temperature. An engine with a water/coolant temperature of 170 degrees will see oil temperatures well over 200 degrees, there is nothing cooling the oil and your engine compartment is pretty much closed.
This isnt an automobile with 4 smooth rolling wheels, this is a log (boat) being pushed through water with a lot of engine and bearing pressure which greatly adds to the temperature of the oil.

(just my thoughts)

Ps. I always followed the manufacturer which was 25/40 in my mercruisers and now with a Volvopenta engine the book also states 20/50 as an option that I choose to use.
Actually currently using 15w50 Mystik JT8 semi syn this year in our new to us Chaparral.

Last edited by alarmguy; 06/17/19 05:41 AM.

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