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Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? #5134888
06/15/19 12:17 PM
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I've no doubt there are after market options for LED or HID's but just how good are they, in general? Is there a particular brand name after market that is high quality and equivalent in function to factory equipped OEM setups?






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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5134891
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Not without changing out the projector in the headlight I don't think.


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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5134947
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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5134983
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If a car is factory setup with halogen projector beams (e.g. Ford Fusion SE for example) will the factory projector lens work for an LED bulb behind it or is that lens geometry made for the light spectrum of halogen only?



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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5134985
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I've put plenty of LED bulbs behind halogen projectors. Never an issue.

I have found Beamtech LED bulbs to be the best after using plenty of different brands. Brightness and durability are flawless.


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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5134986
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A lot of OEM led lights are terrible, so aftermarket will most likely not be any better.


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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5135101
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Here is an interesting place to start. https://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/Dual-Sport-Bikes--LED-Headlight-Bulbs_c_128.html
As this company went through the trouble of finding bulbs that work best.

Clearly, there are LED bulbs that outperform others and far outperform halogen bulbs.

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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5135103
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What is the goal changing them out?

Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: madRiver] #5135203
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Originally Posted by madRiver
What is the goal changing them out?


I'm looking at buying a vehicle that is equipped with halogen projector beam headlights and I want to upgrade it to LED or HID, preferably using the OEM reflector assembly.



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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5135268
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Originally Posted by LoneRanger
Originally Posted by madRiver
What is the goal changing them out?


I'm looking at buying a vehicle that is equipped with halogen projector beam headlights and I want to upgrade it to LED or HID, preferably using the OEM reflector assembly.

I just bought osram Nightbreaker Unlimited headlights for my 2015 cx5 and it did awesome. Massive upgrade. Try that first and see what you think, imo

On the right is the OEM Phillips. On the left is the Osram. This photo is accurate to my in person observation.

[img]https://scontent.fhhr1-2.fna.fbcdn....0e4e6c89aa1da9b40a84d486&oe=5D9045D5[/img]

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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: KrisZ] #5135270
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Originally Posted by KrisZ
A lot of OEM led lights are terrible, so aftermarket will most likely not be any better.

My LED headlights are awesome in my opinion. What aspect of them do you find horrible on other vehicles?


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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: Ws6] #5135304
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Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by KrisZ
A lot of OEM led lights are terrible, so aftermarket will most likely not be any better.

My LED headlights are awesome in my opinion. What aspect of them do you find horrible on other vehicles?


Same here. I highly recommend the Diode Dynamics SL1 LED’s, I love mine. If it’s a reflector style headlight I would not put HID’s in them, they’ll just glare other people.


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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: Skippy722] #5135335
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Originally Posted by Skippy722
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by KrisZ
A lot of OEM led lights are terrible, so aftermarket will most likely not be any better.

My LED headlights are awesome in my opinion. What aspect of them do you find horrible on other vehicles?


Same here. I highly recommend the Diode Dynamics SL1 LED’s, I love mine. If it’s a reflector style headlight I would not put HID’s in them, they’ll just glare other people.


They might be awesome to you as you sit behind them, but the glare a lot of them produce is simply mind boggling when compared to halogens or HIDs. I used to be able to drive at night without dimming my rear view mirror, I no longer can do that. It's like having someone with the high beams on behind you.

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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: LoneRanger] #5135380
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Sounds like they are not properly aimed, or the projector is poor in design.


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Re: Any Known After Market HID or LED Headlight Upgrades that are Good as OEM ? [Re: KrisZ] #5135386
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Originally Posted by KrisZ


They might be awesome to you as you sit behind them, but the glare a lot of them produce is simply mind boggling when compared to halogens or HIDs. I used to be able to drive at night without dimming my rear view mirror, I no longer can do that. It's like having someone with the high beams on behind you.


If they’re glaring, so we’re the factory 9005 and upgraded 9011 halogen bulbs since they have identical beam patterns. Then again, mine are also in projectors. Plus the SL1’s have been proven time and time again to work great in reflector or projector headlights, producing identical beam patterns in almost all factory halogens, just with a whiter light.

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