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Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles #5134751
06/15/19 08:57 AM
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2017 Honda CR-V oil change by dealer Dec 2018. 6 months in and 1700 miles later...oil changed due to possible fuel dilution issue. Nothing unusual noticed in the reveal sans the one piece of "grit" in bottom of can. Base plate and o ring, ADV, and bypass valve in good shape. Filter medium...meh.

First cut for me on a Honda OEM filter. Seems to be run-of-the-mill mid-tier filter. Adequate for the job at hand.

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2019 Subaru Impreza 5-door Castrol EP 0w-20 PBL14615 filter
2018 Honda Clarity PHEV Castrol Bio-Synthetic 0w-20 PBL14610 filter
2017 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Castrol Bio-Synthetic 0w-20 PBL25608 filter
Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: OS4A] #5134828
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Same as a Fram PH7317 in construction, but with worse efficiency. I'd run a Fram over this for nearly 2x the efficiency all day. Fram PH7317 95% at 20um Honda is 50% at 20um. Step up to the XG7317 and it's 99%+ TG7317 is 99%.


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Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: FlyNavyP3] #5134851
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Originally Posted by FlyNavyP3
Same as a Fram PH7317 in construction, but with worse efficiency. I'd run a Fram over this for nearly 2x the efficiency all day. Fram PH7317 95% at 20um Honda is 50% at 20um. Step up to the XG7317 and it's 99%+ TG7317 is 99%.


I'm not sure it really matters ...

I had a Honda Odyssey that went 9 years / 150 k miles on those " rock catcher ... " OE Honda filters. Engine still ran like new. The rest of the van, not so much ...

Actually changing your oil and filter, on time, is 99 % of the battle.


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Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: FlyNavyP3] #5134856
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FlyNavyP3

Actually replaced with Bosch premium 3323 which has great filtration specs as well...with the added bonus of a sale by Amazon for the filter = $3.83.


2019 Subaru Impreza 5-door Castrol EP 0w-20 PBL14615 filter
2018 Honda Clarity PHEV Castrol Bio-Synthetic 0w-20 PBL14610 filter
2017 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Castrol Bio-Synthetic 0w-20 PBL25608 filter
Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: OS4A] #5134858
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Yuck, thats a fram painted blue.

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: OS4A] #5134934
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Looks great bro! I’m sure Honda knows what they are doing with their specd out filters. They have some of the longest lasting engines out there! 👍🏻

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: FlyNavyP3] #5135243
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Originally Posted by FlyNavyP3
Same as a Fram PH7317 in construction, but with worse efficiency. ...


That is not entirely true.

It is most similar to a tough guard. It has more pleats/media than a PH and one more than a TG but it is taken up by the metal seam clamp which neither the TG or PH have.


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Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: OS4A] #5137120
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If I may also jump on this thread, since I want to ask about oil filter for newer Hondas .

Been doing a lot of research in the past week. Was settled on using Purolator One as it fits what I would desire in an oil filter. However, as I understand it, Purolator/Bosch have history of torn media. Which brings me back to either using OEM Honda A02 or Mobil1 110A.

I do not know of any other good oil filter that I would like to try.

And no I do not want to try Fram Ultra, have read 3 cases of oil pressure problem or noise issue

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Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: maximum6] #5137129
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Originally Posted by maximum6
If I may also jump on this thread, since I want to ask about oil filter for newer Hondas .

Been doing a lot of research in the past week. Was settled on using Purolator One as it fits what I would desire in an oil filter. However, as I understand it, Purolator/Bosch have history of torn media. Which brings me back to either using OEM Honda A02 or Mobil1 110A.

I do not know of any other good oil filter that I would like to try.

And no I do not want to try Fram Ultra, have read 3 cases of oil pressure problem or noise issue

Wix/Napa Gold? I don't think purolator 1 is having those problems anymore. No or do I believe it was ever even close to being as bad as it was made out to be to begin with. Id use a Purolator 1 but the wix has the thread end bypass I prefer and microgreen if you can find them (I have some stalked up) has the 2 micron wafer that makes it far superior to a typical oil filter and a really thick can.

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: maximum6] #5137143
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Originally Posted by maximum6
And no I do not want to try Fram Ultra, have read 3 cases of oil pressure problem or noise issue


Pretty hard to believe since the Ultra flows very well. I'd say the "oil pressure issue" wasn't a filter issue but something else going on. Understand how a PD oil pump works. Start up noise was probably a leaky ADBV, which sometimes happens on all brands of filters.

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: Pinoak] #5137150
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Based on the fact that there was around 100 reported torn filters reported just by members here, I'd say it was pretty prevelant. It wasn't a rare 1 or 2 cases over a couple years, but more like 100 cases reported in less than a year.

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: OS4A] #5137347
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Honda specifies a different media than a TG, why is that? Why don't they use the higher efficiency TG media? Honda apparently knows something more about filtration than efficiency numbers.

Fram uses the same adbv on all the series from EG to XG, Honda made sure on their model the seal area for the adbv was nice and wide, making a good seal. All Fram models are not wide like that.

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: Farnsworth] #5137481
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Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Honda specifies a different media than a TG, why is that? Why don't they use the higher efficiency TG media? Honda apparently knows something more about filtration than efficiency numbers.


A/B oil and filter change schedule, and fact their OLM could go over 10k miles per OCI.

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: ZeeOSix] #5137508
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Honda specifies a different media than a TG, why is that? Why don't they use the higher efficiency TG media? Honda apparently knows something more about filtration than efficiency numbers.


A/B oil and filter change schedule, and fact their OLM could go over 10k miles per OCI.



Link to their statement? By your logic, Honda does not recommend using the TG. It's got to be another reason.

Re: Honda 15400-PLM-A02 filter after 1700 miles [Re: ZeeOSix] #5137575
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Honda specifies a different media than a TG, why is that? Why don't they use the higher efficiency TG media? Honda apparently knows something more about filtration than efficiency numbers.


A/B oil and filter change schedule, and fact their OLM could go over 10k miles per OCI.


Honda says change the filter every 2nd oil change. The lower efficiency seems to be protection against the worst case scenario of actually completely clogging the filter media, and forcing it to by-pass too frequently.


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