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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: addyguy] #5133012
06/13/19 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by addyguy
Whatever engine this is on is having serious problems - can has a lot of sludge in it, and the filter is full of metal flakes.

I'd worry about the engine this came off, not so much the filter.

One might wonder if those flakes are a result of cutting open the can.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133014
06/13/19 09:11 AM
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I use other MC filters like the FL 910S and the 2017B cartridge and they are outstanding, but there is no way I would use the 820. Dude, be realistic.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: addyguy] #5133024
06/13/19 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by addyguy
Whatever engine this is on is having serious problems - can has a lot of sludge in it, and the filter is full of metal flakes.

I'd worry about the engine this came off, not so much the filter.


metal flake are from the saw my friend use it to cut the fiter. about the sludge im not sure.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: kschachn] #5133026
06/13/19 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by MetalSlug
Enjoy guys I’m going drink beer.

Maybe it's time to reconsider your sig line of "NO FRAM OCOD " Orange Can Of DEATH"

wink


not a chance, im stick to that until fram add metal end cap to the OCOD filter.

Look at my stash, i have 2 ultra . I do use ultra, but i lost interest on ultra after all. im thinking wix line from now.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: Farnsworth] #5133031
06/13/19 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Manufacturing defect again like on so many brands. Reading your description it seems the hole first seen was at the seam, and the wide pleat was NOT torn until you pressed it with finger, correct? Some seams do have gap but there should be glue inside, check up to a light for a hole. I have pressed with finger a number of brands pleats and they tore, Baldwin for one which has sort of a soft thick media. Not excusing this one.
You have a 600 hp Mustang driving in Texas? How about the Ford Racing filter? From what I see here it is the best thing going for an engine like you have.


I do want give Ford racing FL820s a try. but for $20+ dollar oil filter... I think a wix xp or napa platium are better

I read other say about purolator BOSS, having some kind of issue about ADBV.... is that serious ? something need to be avoid ? after discount code at advance turn out to be under $11 everday price.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133038
06/13/19 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSlug
not a chance, im stick to that until fram add metal end cap to the OCOD filter.

And yet it is the metal end cap filters that are tearing. Honestly I'm over them, none of my cars use a filter with a metal end cap (most have none) and I've come to believe that's a good thing from what I've seen on here.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133058
06/13/19 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSlug


not a chance, im stick to that until fram add metal end cap to the OCOD filter.

Look at my stash, i have 2 ultra . I do use ultra, but i lost interest on ultra after all. im thinking wix line from now.


You lost an interest for ultra why?
It doesn’t make much sense, you’re saying I’m not interested in an efficient filter yet I’m looking into using wix do/Napa platinum which is a decent one yet not even close to ultra efficiency-wise


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133124
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Originally Posted by MetalSlug
Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Manufacturing defect again like on so many brands. Reading your description it seems the hole first seen was at the seam, and the wide pleat was NOT torn until you pressed it with finger, correct? Some seams do have gap but there should be glue inside, check up to a light for a hole. I have pressed with finger a number of brands pleats and they tore, Baldwin for one which has sort of a soft thick media. Not excusing this one.
You have a 600 hp Mustang driving in Texas? How about the Ford Racing filter? From what I see here it is the best thing going for an engine like you have.


I do want give Ford racing FL820s a try. but for $20+ dollar oil filter... I think a wix xp or napa platium are better

I read other say about purolator BOSS, having some kind of issue about ADBV.... is that serious ? something need to be avoid ? after discount code at advance turn out to be under $11 everday price.


The Boss 99% efficiency at 40 microns. You get 99% plus efficiency from a TG at six dollars and change.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133193
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Originally Posted by MetalSlug
might be nothing new to you all, but its a big new for me.


Nothing like seeing it with your own eyes to make it real.

Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133209
06/13/19 01:25 PM
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Could tearing of the media be a result of handling the oil soaked media while and after cutting them open?


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: aquariuscsm] #5133234
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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Could tearing of the media be a result of handling the oil soaked media while and after cutting them open?


Read what he said about finding a hole, shown in the 4th photo, way down in the pleat seam. Sounds like he started pushing pleats around after that, and found that the media was weak and could tear easily.

So where did that blown out piece of media go? Inside the oiling system of course.

Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133408
06/13/19 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalSlug
Any one want to guess how it turn out ? Tear or no tear ?

I bet it will be torn. I mean, we have to keep the streak going here, on EVERY FL-820S is GUARANTEED to be torn......"WINK, WINK" smirk


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: MetalSlug] #5133503
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Originally Posted by MetalSlug
Originally Posted by Farnsworth
Manufacturing defect again like on so many brands. Reading your description it seems the hole first seen was at the seam, and the wide pleat was NOT torn until you pressed it with finger, correct? Some seams do have gap but there should be glue inside, check up to a light for a hole. I have pressed with finger a number of brands pleats and they tore, Baldwin for one which has sort of a soft thick media. Not excusing this one.
You have a 600 hp Mustang driving in Texas? How about the Ford Racing filter? From what I see here it is the best thing going for an engine like you have.


I do want give Ford racing FL820s a try. but for $20+ dollar oil filter... I think a wix xp or napa platium are better

I read other say about purolator BOSS, having some kind of issue about ADBV.... is that serious ? something need to be avoid ? after discount code at advance turn out to be under $11 everday price.



It's a tough one but MC filters do have the bypass on the correct end for Ford. The Boss, on some versions, have cuts in the adbv from the baseplate holes. The rubber is pressed into the base so there shouldn't be any leaking. Still not visually OK.

Since the filter didn't tear you may want to keep on using these if price is important. I'm no expert like some, but that's what I would do, and send MC pictures with an email asking them for advice.They are a bargain oil filter. Where is the hole? I saw the white spot and thought that was some debris. Good luck with finding oil filters. Wix and Fram also make racing filters.

Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #5133507
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Well I ain't no rocket doctor or a brain scientists however looking in the can there is evidence of grime dirt ect. I wouldn't be to worried because if it was clean that crap would have worked it's way into the engine which obviously is bad.Although I would live and learn don't use this filter again like a dog going back to eat his vomit.


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Re: METALSLUG First ever oil filter cut open FL820s [Re: Farnsworth] #5133561
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Motorcraft/Ford won't respond. Others here tried contacting them before when they found torn MC filters, and all that was heard back was chirping crickets.

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