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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5130769
06/10/19 08:29 PM
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We add the Tide pod and a little Oxyclean to a hot water bucket and throw in first. Add clothes, few scent pellets, fresh cold water and 2 hours later Presto. Goes to bottom stack and air dry with tennis balls for 90 minutes.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5130789
06/10/19 08:47 PM
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Oxy Clean or 20 Mule Borax as a booster. I use white vinegar as a fabric softener. Regular liquid fabric softeners contain wax and they will gum up your machine.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5130836
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If my wife ever changes the oil on any of our vehicles, she'll do it how I tell her to.

If I'm ever put in charge of the laundry change intervals on any of our clothes, I'll do it how she tells me to.

This ain't rocket surgery.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5130873
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Originally Posted by skip029
As I'm doing the laundry (wife made me), and I'm adding Tide pods to the washer and then I reach over for the fabric softener, I chuckle and think to myself "maybe I shouldn't be adding this additive? How am I to know that Tide hasn't engineered their detergent to be as soft as possible or maybe perhaps adding in fabric softener will disrupt the PH balance of the additive packs in Tide?? Maybe I should be saving my money on these 'fabric softeners'?" hmmmm, then the wife yells at me to snap out of it and stop reading the label on the fabric softener....


Fabric softener is added during the rinse cycle.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5130879
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Pretreat the stains, wait 15 minutes and start the wash. Use the proper pretreat. The oxiclean stuff is good on organic stains like food or blood. Other pretreat are better on grease.

The one hard and fast rule is if you dry the item without getting the stain 100% out, you never will.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: Donald] #5130919
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Which is better, Top:loader or Front loader? I have an old MAH4000AWW that I have resurrected and re-bearinged. I also have a more recent Frigidaire TL.Which do you all prefer?

As for detergent, I like Gain with a dash of Oxy Clean. Our city water is soft and very high quality (Birmingham Water Works). I soak clothes after an initial 30 seconds of agitation, sometimes overnight. This allows light detergent use.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5131099
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Front loader uses less water and does less damage to clothes. I think it cleans better.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: Donald] #5131280
06/11/19 11:06 AM
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Former laundry engineer (1983-1998) weighing in. Front loader does indeed use less water and is less damaging to clothes. As far as washability goes, many of the Euro front loaders I benchmarked achieved this through cycle design. Short agitate followed by an extended soak cycle, often punctuated by several extremely short agitate cycles,followed by more ag then rinse and a thorough spin dry. Some wash cycles were up to 2 hrs. long due to use of soak periods. Personally, I have never owned a front loader. I find top loaders to be cheaper, less problematic and perform adequately.

Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: Donald] #5131297
06/11/19 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Donald
Pretreat the stains, wait 15 minutes and start the wash. Use the proper pretreat. The oxiclean stuff is good on organic stains like food or blood. Other pretreat are better on grease.

The one hard and fast rule is if you dry the item without getting the stain 100% out, you never will.


I've used Fels-Naptha for pretreatment of nastier stains

And definitely, don't dry until the stain is gone, or at least gone-enough because you'll have to live with it from that point forward.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5131516
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I use Arm and Hammer Scent Free and a half cup of 20 Mule Team Borax.

To pretreat stains, I follow the directions on Goop Hand Cleaner (it's an amazing stain remover on clothes)

When I was in the Army during the Digital Camo years, softeners and whiteners were taboo on the uniforms, oxyclean tended to make the uniform have a white fuzzy glow as well.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: SirTanon] #5133020
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Originally Posted by SirTanon
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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: JunkdrawerDog] #5133036
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Originally Posted by JunkdrawerDog
Former laundry engineer (1983-1998) weighing in. Front loader does indeed use less water and is less damaging to clothes. As far as washability goes, many of the Euro front loaders I benchmarked achieved this through cycle design. Short agitate followed by an extended soak cycle, often punctuated by several extremely short agitate cycles,followed by more ag then rinse and a thorough spin dry. Some wash cycles were up to 2 hrs. long due to use of soak periods. Personally, I have never owned a front loader. I find top loaders to be cheaper, less problematic and perform adequately.



+1, Since you live in NV I have some anecdotal experience with this. Some of the suites at Vadara, Las Vegas have Bosch front loaders and from my experience with them the 2 hr wash cycle is for real. There's no free lunch as they say.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: skip029] #5133100
06/13/19 11:14 AM
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My laundry additive is adding more water to my loads these days. These new fangled washing machines don't hold much water at all. Heck, they don't even have any agitators anymore.
About the only setting that works pretty decent is the Bulk Load Setting. It adds about 278% more water than any other setting on my Maytag Bravo model washer.


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Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: BMWTurboDzl] #5133185
06/13/19 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by JunkdrawerDog
Former laundry engineer (1983-1998) weighing in. Front loader does indeed use less water and is less damaging to clothes. As far as washability goes, many of the Euro front loaders I benchmarked achieved this through cycle design. Short agitate followed by an extended soak cycle, often punctuated by several extremely short agitate cycles,followed by more ag then rinse and a thorough spin dry. Some wash cycles were up to 2 hrs. long due to use of soak periods. Personally, I have never owned a front loader. I find top loaders to be cheaper, less problematic and perform adequately.



+1, Since you live in NV I have some anecdotal experience with this. Some of the suites at Vadara, Las Vegas have Bosch front loaders and from my experience with them the 2 hr wash cycle is for real. There's no free lunch as they say.

Re: Laundry Additives? [Re: JunkdrawerDog] #5133188
06/13/19 01:00 PM
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Correct. You can pre soak in a bucket and then launder or you can let the clothes soak in the machine. Either way, you have to give the enzymes in the laundry product enough time to break down the stain.

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