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Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons #5126100 06/05/19 03:13 PM
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I have followed this channel for a bit and had some interesting presentations. He has done virgin oil comparisons and will include a link to one featuring all 5w30 weights of Redline, Pennzoil, Amsoil, and Kendall. Would be interested in people’s opinion regarding validity of testing and results. There are similar videos on you tube where he features Schaefer’s 9000 5w30 which “beat” Mobil 1 5w30 annual performance. This is the link to playlist and after that just copied link for most recent comparisons.


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Re: Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons [Re: spiderbypass] #5126104 06/05/19 03:16 PM
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His nonsense gets posted here quite often, nothing in them of any worth (which has been endlessly explained in other threads).


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Re: Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons [Re: spiderbypass] #5126164 06/05/19 04:06 PM
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It's interesting, that's all it is. It has almost no correlation to how well an oil will perform in your engine. Mindless entertainment. I'll give him credit though in that he tries very hard to remain completely neutral and unbiased.

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I find his videos interesting but don't think they correlate that well to real world use. Cold flow is one and it kind of is useful but that one characteristic is not enough to choose an oil. He does a bearing test that is interesting but again not how a car engine wears.


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Re: Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons [Re: spiderbypass] #5126203 06/05/19 04:39 PM
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Entertaining. And although there's no way for him to recreate the internal conditions in an engine, his methods are consistent and fair and may have some correlation to how the oil will fare.

It's the "low tech" version of pqia. LOL


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Anyone can be a You Tube Star these days.


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Re: Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons [Re: spiderbypass] #5126275 06/05/19 05:46 PM
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I feel naïve. I am not mechanically inclined so am intially impressed with someone who has those attributes. He seems so earnest “aw shucks” and empirical-wonder if it is too late to cancel my Project Farm shirt collection?😀 I did wonder if the tests he did had any validity especially since Pennzoil knocked off one of my favorites Redline in last “competition.”
Think his “March Madness” setup also appealed to one reason joined Bitog many years ago-while illogical-do find different oils and brands that kind of root for-whether that’s based on marketing-fascination with ester basestocks-or just finding some oils cool.


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Re: Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons [Re: spiderbypass] #5126309 06/05/19 06:24 PM
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He's in it for the money. He "tests" other things as well, some of them are downright stupid. A while back someone posted here how much he makes every month from clicks and views and it was quite a bit.


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Re: Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons [Re: spiderbypass] #5126315 06/05/19 06:31 PM
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very little but some actual good info. i can cay from experience my girlfriends 2013 2.5L DI malibu loves amazon basics euro spec synthetic 5-40 mote than similar liqui moly because it drinks MORE of it!!! once + done with that stuff for sure

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I find it interesting that Mobil does the same type pour test to demonstrate their Synthetic is better than conventional oil. Give the guy some credit for showing how cold oil flows and differences. O, I forget that we are the " self" appointed experts in the field of oil testing. Ed


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The important thing to take from his cold flow tests is that even if there is a winner, it is not a winner by much. If you need colder flow than 5W-20, get 0W-20.

What entertains me much more is when he tries oil alternatives like bacon grease or shampoo, and all the abuse of his lawn mowers.

Some are quite useful though, like his comparisons of sawzall blades performance vs lifspan vs price. In particular it's nice to see how much of a trade off you're making to get the cheap stuff at Harbor Freight for not just saw blades but several different items.

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Originally Posted by Dave9
The important thing to take from his cold flow tests is that even if there is a winner, it is not a winner by much. If you need colder flow than 5W-20, get 0W-20.

We do have to remember, though, that pour doesn't demonstrate pumpability, which is what cold weather ratings are based upon (and cold cranking). Pour testing for winter grading disappeared years ago for a reason.


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Re: Project Farm synthetic oil comparisons [Re: spiderbypass] #5126451 06/05/19 08:35 PM
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I'm part of several car / racing groups on Facebook. Every time he posts a new video, they spread across the groups like wildfire. Now people are bashing Red Line and promoting Super Tech. They take everything they see in those videos as gospel and legitimate testing. I don't find his videos interesting. I find them as junk science that spreads more myths and misinformation, and makes my job a nightmare when a customer decides he can pour SuperTech in his .610" lift solid flat tappet 7500 rpm small block because "it's just as good as Red Line. Just watch the video." If he wipes a cam lobe, I hope he doesn't expect me to honor the warranty.

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Serves them right. Redline is just rebottled Kendall anyway. 😉


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Just good fun. He’s making some serious coin with the ads. Too bad he can spend some of it on a better haircut. Thanks for the post. smile


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